Results 1 to 18 of 18

Thread: Clutch Suddenly Softer / Not As Rock Hard?

  1. #1
    social's Avatar
    social is offline Ute Finatic
    Ride
    MY06 6.0L VZ Thunder(na naa na naa..)

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    South Aus
    Posts
    1,375

    Default Clutch Suddenly Softer / Not As Rock Hard?

    Hey guys,
    Did a fair bit of driving today, more than usual (about 150kms) and i noticed towards the end of the day, my clutch went from (as usual) 100% wat-the-fk-rock-hard to a hard press through to a soft follow through (if that makes sense). Just wondering if this is a bad thing or something? Clutch isnt slipping or anything and no mechanical faults to date so yea just doublechecking everything. Previously when i got the car, i tried to adjust the cable but all it did was change the height of the pedal not the actual strength of it. I have the car booked in for a service on the 20th of April, my mechanic said its not good for the clutch to be so hard and its a possible fkd cable, otherwise i may need a new clutch all together

    Any feedback / experience with that would be really awesome thanks guys.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter03 View Post
    Washed it and now the wife's gonna take it out and get it dirty.
    Quote Originally Posted by QldKev View Post
    You are talking about the car?

  2. #2
    hakhawk's Avatar
    hakhawk is offline smooth moderator
    Ride
    BMW E21 320i, E36 318IS coupe

    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    5,092

  3. #3
    social's Avatar
    social is offline Ute Finatic
    Ride
    MY06 6.0L VZ Thunder(na naa na naa..)

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    South Aus
    Posts
    1,375

    Default

    :\ sorry man, wrong vr-vs section
    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter03 View Post
    Washed it and now the wife's gonna take it out and get it dirty.
    Quote Originally Posted by QldKev View Post
    You are talking about the car?

  4. #4
    VrWagz1's Avatar
    VrWagz1 is offline The Wagon on Wheels..
    Ride
    Vr S2 exec 5.0 man Wagon

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    wollongong
    Posts
    2,380

    Default

    possibly you broke some fingers on the pressure plate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blown V6 Hatch View Post
    Has ACL stopped making flat top pistons or something? Grinding a heap off the heads seems to be the latest fashion...
    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper View Post
    It's cheap and half arsed - perfect fit for a Commodore
    Reaper

  5. #5
    social's Avatar
    social is offline Ute Finatic
    Ride
    MY06 6.0L VZ Thunder(na naa na naa..)

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    South Aus
    Posts
    1,375

    Default

    :| would i know about this? aka loud snapping noises or something? what is the extent of that type of damage...
    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter03 View Post
    Washed it and now the wife's gonna take it out and get it dirty.
    Quote Originally Posted by QldKev View Post
    You are talking about the car?

  6. #6
    Not_An_Abba_Fan's Avatar
    Not_An_Abba_Fan is offline Exhaust Guru
    Ride
    HSV Senator VTII

    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Bunbury, WA
    Posts
    9,102

    Default

    If you broke some fingers or some springs came out you would definitely know. Also the clutch would probably start slipping. Sounds like the cable. Was the clutch hard all the way through the travel before or stiff at the top and then softer through the bottom half? Does is engage at a different height now? You may have bent or broken the fork.
    Visit my Facebook page



    Quote Originally Posted by DannyboyDS View Post
    I burnt my hand in a nasty way once using method one but thats because i'm a twat.

  7. #7
    social's Avatar
    social is offline Ute Finatic
    Ride
    MY06 6.0L VZ Thunder(na naa na naa..)

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    South Aus
    Posts
    1,375

    Default

    clutch was always hard all the way through, and it only softens a bit on the follow through wen i change gears going up not down or in first jst starting to taken off. it doesnt engage differently same as before
    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter03 View Post
    Washed it and now the wife's gonna take it out and get it dirty.
    Quote Originally Posted by QldKev View Post
    You are talking about the car?

  8. #8
    Not_An_Abba_Fan's Avatar
    Not_An_Abba_Fan is offline Exhaust Guru
    Ride
    HSV Senator VTII

    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Bunbury, WA
    Posts
    9,102

    Default

    It could be that the pressure plate has lost tension, that happens. It doesn't slip at all? Try moderate acceleration in 3rd and stab the clutch, does it slip then or engage firmly?
    Visit my Facebook page



    Quote Originally Posted by DannyboyDS View Post
    I burnt my hand in a nasty way once using method one but thats because i'm a twat.

  9. #9
    social's Avatar
    social is offline Ute Finatic
    Ride
    MY06 6.0L VZ Thunder(na naa na naa..)

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    South Aus
    Posts
    1,375

    Default

    il give it a test when i go back out today, if the pressure plate has lost tension, is this a accident waiting to happen?
    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter03 View Post
    Washed it and now the wife's gonna take it out and get it dirty.
    Quote Originally Posted by QldKev View Post
    You are talking about the car?

  10. #10
    ScoHar's Avatar
    ScoHar is offline Jizz in my pants
    Ride
    02 VX Equipe V6

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    CHCH, NZ
    Posts
    829

    Default

    had this kinda feeling happen in a car of mine, im not sure about your but is it cable clutch or hydraulic, when mine went from hard to soft through the travel it ended up being the cable stretching, check if you have operation at the end of the hard part.

  11. #11
    social's Avatar
    social is offline Ute Finatic
    Ride
    MY06 6.0L VZ Thunder(na naa na naa..)

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    South Aus
    Posts
    1,375

    Default

    its cable and what do u mean by operation at the end hard part part?
    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter03 View Post
    Washed it and now the wife's gonna take it out and get it dirty.
    Quote Originally Posted by QldKev View Post
    You are talking about the car?

  12. #12
    Not_An_Abba_Fan's Avatar
    Not_An_Abba_Fan is offline Exhaust Guru
    Ride
    HSV Senator VTII

    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Bunbury, WA
    Posts
    9,102

    Default

    If the cable stretches the clutch will engage higher up in the pedal travel.
    Visit my Facebook page



    Quote Originally Posted by DannyboyDS View Post
    I burnt my hand in a nasty way once using method one but thats because i'm a twat.

  13. #13
    social's Avatar
    social is offline Ute Finatic
    Ride
    MY06 6.0L VZ Thunder(na naa na naa..)

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    South Aus
    Posts
    1,375

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Not_An_Abba_Fan View Post
    If the cable stretches the clutch will engage higher up in the pedal travel.
    = bad wear on the clutch or just needa ush my foot in further?
    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter03 View Post
    Washed it and now the wife's gonna take it out and get it dirty.
    Quote Originally Posted by QldKev View Post
    You are talking about the car?

  14. #14
    ScoHar's Avatar
    ScoHar is offline Jizz in my pants
    Ride
    02 VX Equipe V6

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    CHCH, NZ
    Posts
    829

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Not_An_Abba_Fan View Post
    If the cable stretches the clutch will engage higher up in the pedal travel.
    Yea thats what I mean, in other words, your clutch might be fully engaged half way down, and the soft part just being the cable stretching from being nackered

  15. #15
    Not_An_Abba_Fan's Avatar
    Not_An_Abba_Fan is offline Exhaust Guru
    Ride
    HSV Senator VTII

    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Bunbury, WA
    Posts
    9,102

    Default

    When the clutch plate wears it will engage lower to the floor, when the cable stretches it engages higher up. When the pressure plate gives, the pedal will seem softer and it will slip under hard acceleration usually in 3rd or 4th.

    What you are saying is that the clutch operation hasn't changed, just the pedal is easier to push in....correct?
    Visit my Facebook page



    Quote Originally Posted by DannyboyDS View Post
    I burnt my hand in a nasty way once using method one but thats because i'm a twat.

  16. #16
    social's Avatar
    social is offline Ute Finatic
    Ride
    MY06 6.0L VZ Thunder(na naa na naa..)

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    South Aus
    Posts
    1,375

    Default

    yea man..............
    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter03 View Post
    Washed it and now the wife's gonna take it out and get it dirty.
    Quote Originally Posted by QldKev View Post
    You are talking about the car?

  17. #17
    Not_An_Abba_Fan's Avatar
    Not_An_Abba_Fan is offline Exhaust Guru
    Ride
    HSV Senator VTII

    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Bunbury, WA
    Posts
    9,102

    Default

    Then it sounds to me like the pressure plate has lost it's tension. If it breaks it would make a pretty loud noise as all the bits are thrown around the bell housing and cover.
    Visit my Facebook page



    Quote Originally Posted by DannyboyDS View Post
    I burnt my hand in a nasty way once using method one but thats because i'm a twat.

  18. #18
    social's Avatar
    social is offline Ute Finatic
    Ride
    MY06 6.0L VZ Thunder(na naa na naa..)

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    South Aus
    Posts
    1,375

    Default

    ok well.. as i said it was softer, but not as if the lightest touch moves it, still a bit hard but yea, thanks for the info guys got a service lined up for april 20th hopefully nothing goes wrong till then
    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter03 View Post
    Washed it and now the wife's gonna take it out and get it dirty.
    Quote Originally Posted by QldKev View Post
    You are talking about the car?

Similar Threads

  1. VN Commodore S suddenly running ruff
    By jakewaze in forum VN - VP Holden Commodore (1988 - 1993)
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 16-02-2009, 12:47 PM
  2. VT just suddenly died
    By Steven M in forum VT - VX Holden Commodore (1997 - 2002)
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 29-12-2008, 08:03 PM
  3. Clutch pedal return spring broken. Hard to replace???
    By VrWagz1 in forum VR - VS Holden Commodore (1993 - 1997)
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 02-09-2008, 09:09 PM
  4. Softer Ride(lowered)
    By lgnd3800 in forum VR - VS Holden Commodore (1993 - 1997)
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 15-09-2007, 01:23 PM
  5. car has suddenly gotten warmer
    By beefcream in forum VN - VP Holden Commodore (1988 - 1993)
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 25-02-2006, 02:04 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72