rattling pulley engine noise when idleing

[Rider5]

Hi I have a rattling noise coming from the front of the engine on my VR it's done 240k
I first thought it was the belt tensioner pulley so I replaced that and the noise was still there, when I turned on the air con the noise got louder and worse so I then I bought a shorter fan belt to bypass the air con but noise is still there. When I take the fan belt completely off the engine the noise stops.
I've tried listening with a screw driver and a piece of hose but it's so loud that I cant pin point it.
The water pump feels firm when I try and move it, the harmonic balancer feels firm but... there are bits of rubber missing out of it ! I did think without the belt on it's not under any load.
The power steering pulley does have a bit of movement in it.
Any ideas ? I think it's either the power steering or the harmonic balancer

[accentstencil]

Hi I have a rattling noise coming from the front of the engine on my VR it's done 240k
I first thought it was the belt tensioner pulley so I replaced that and the noise was still there, when I turned on the air con the noise got louder and worse so I then I bought a shorter fan belt to bypass the air con but noise is still there. When I take the fan belt completely off the engine the noise stops.
I've tried listening with a screw driver and a piece of hose but it's so loud that I cant pin point it.
The water pump feels firm when I try and move it, the harmonic balancer feels firm but... there are bits of rubber missing out of it ! I did think without the belt on it's not under any load.
The power steering pulley does have a bit of movement in it.
Any ideas ? I think it's either the power steering or the harmonic balancer

It sounds like the harmonic balancer is the problem, bits of rubber missing from it is not good.

[markholland]

Hi
Change the AC pulleys they are a common problem There are 2 of them about $15 each easy to replace 15 mm socket to take off they the originals were metal now they are hard plastic.

[social]

il put my money on a harmoic balancer too

[accentstencil]

Hi -
Change the AC pulleys they are a common problem There are 2 of them about $15 each easy to replace 15 mm socket to take off they the originals were metal now they are hard plastic.

He put a shorter belt on by-passing the compressor and the noise was still there.

[5 speed VR]

It sounds like the harmonic balancer is the problem, bits of rubber missing from it is not good.

I was driving along one day when bang something went in the front and a hell of a noise was comming from the motor, turned out to be the harmonic balancer and there was a big chunk of rubber sitting on top of my battery from the balancer. Got it replaced and no noise.

[Rider5]

Thanks guys, I figure it has to be the harmonic balancer and a mate had a look at it he reckons by the way the rubber is cracked with bits missing that it's probably the cause.
Any recommendations who I can take it too, NOR in Perth ?

[Rider5]

OK Here's my feedback for any one else that may have a similar noise. Yes it was the harmonic balancer. I got a new one put on now she's as quiet a mouse.

[SWEET VS CAPRICE]

If it is a V6 . Turn the steering wheel left and right and rattles it head off. Like the other guys said. Harmonic balancer. Check it out the rubbers in it are prob all cracked..........