HSV VS Grange (Build No 70)

[pedrotski]

i was drooling over ur car at revheads and the ute next door haha

haha thanks, that ute is my mate brads car. highest HP n/a 355 in WA.

[Bizmark]

That is one tough looking grange! Sounds great too!

[roostahsv]

how can this be a hsv grange #70 wen it dosnt have anything the granges have and mine is a vs hsv grange #70? ur blinkers, garnish, dash and seats are not grange and if u want me to keep going i can

[ducker85]

why is there a Holden badge on the Garnish if it's a HSV?

post a clear picture of the dash badge

[roostahsv]

Iv got a calias spec grange and the garnish iv got the Calais badge but this lads can't b build num 70 if it's a HSV at all...

[STEALTHY™]

Iv got a calias spec grange and the garnish iv got the Calais badge but this lads can't b build num 70 if it's a HSV at all...

A calais spec grange? Rightio...

Pics of build plates if you're trying to discredit this guy (keeping in mind HSV enhanced statesmans and caprices are different to Granges)

[ducker85]

keeping in mind HSV enhanced statesmans and caprices are different

Enhanced cars dont have build numbers..... just like International's cos there still Holden and not HSV.

[STEALTHY™]

Enhanced cars dont have build numbers..... just like International's cos there still Holden and not HSV.

They'll still have build plates tho, which is what i asked for a pic of

[ducker85]

They'll still have build plates tho, which is what i asked for a pic of

I think everybody but this guy know's that. Even VE's have HSVi build plates for something as simple as 20 inch supersport wheels

[roostahsv]

Dunno how to get piks on hear cos I'm on my phone.. Get on perth gumtree , cars n look it up... All I'm saying is mine is a grange and it's build #070... lookin at these lads piks look like he's just done up a HSV stato n claimed it as a grange

[STEALTHY™]

Dunno how to get piks on hear cos I'm on my phone.. Get on perth gumtree , cars n look it up... All I'm saying is mine is a grange and it's build #070... lookin at these lads piks look like he's just done up a HSV stato n claimed it as a grange

Calais is the SWB model, so its nothing to do with a grange.
Build plates will tell all

[roostahsv]

I thought I mine was just a grange but was told it is a calais spec... (explains y iv got all the calais extras) but if not it don't fuss me but im questioning this lads car as mine is the same build num

[STEALTHY™]

I thought I mine was just a grange but was told it is a calais spec... (explains y iv got all the calais extras) but if not it don't fuss me but im questioning this lads car as mine is the same build num

Whoever told you that, is full of shit. A grange is the top of the line model, it has absolutely everything.

I'd like to know aswell, as this guys car has side moulds, granges shouldn't have them (but like i said, build numbers will prove which is correct)

[ducker85]

Just tryd uploading it them... Calais have different door panels(more leather) and speaker holes

well its HSV still nothing to do with calais tell your mate to shut up, its either statesman spec, caprice or grange there's nothing else in LWB models

[roostahsv]

Well he did buy his brand new and had all the options.. Still got all the papers as well but if u say so it must b spot on... All I wanna do is cobgradulate this lad on a nice replica.. And if he still got the original rims name a price..

[Verynice]

lol @ calais spec

[STEALTHY™]

Well that built plate settles it (forgive my doubting you, but when you say you have a Calais Grange, i have to assume everything you post is utter bullshit)

Also there is no need to spam this thread with YOUR pics, politely ask him to change the thread title, and start your own thread.

[walesy]

he sold this car ages ago anyway... hes never on here but hes on my facebook, ill let him know to check the thread and sort out whatever issues there is here

[pedrotski]

Hi roostahsv,

There may be some confusion that you are experiencing due to your sheer lack of knowledge with the HSV Statesman/Grange badge, Or holden in general. The car in question in infact a HSV and there is no doubt about that. I had the original books with the car and the build certificate with it (something you should really keep when you own a hsv), Not to mention every piece of the body kit is stamped with HSV. In response to the question about the rear garnish and indicators etc, Take a look at all the photos and you will notice they always change. This is because things on cars that are driven quite frequently are subject to damage; be it weather, daily driving or just the occasional jealous person. That exact rear garnish came off a VS Supercharged Caprice because it was simply in better condition than the one i had on there. And the deal with the badge, As you may know being such a HSV enthusiast is extremely rare and hard to get so i was having trouble finding a replacement for the old one.

Your car (if you didnt know what car you have) is part of the 2nd run of the Grange. My old car is the original series 1 (If you even bothered to read my first post you would notice it says series 1) version that was built from factory as the HSV Statesman Grange. Not to be confused with the HSV Enhanced Statesmans. There was an extremely limited run of this model with only 47 made with the 185i engine and 35 made with the 215i engine (The car in question) as opposed to the later series 2/3 versions with over 100 of each. Mind you the later ones do have the poor woodgrain interior so they arnt exactly as nice imo.

If you don't believe me about people referring to these models as granges then i suggest you take a look at other people selling them, For example this thread sparked my interest in the car and i was going to buy this exact one - How much for 5.7 hsv vs grange?

There are countless car sales and threads on them.

Also in regards to your question asking if i still have the original rims. Well i do, but since you made such an ass out of yourself i think i might just hold onto them or sell them to someone else after original senator/grange rims just so its harder for you to get a hold of them. You could have just asked the question and not made your self look like a total f-wit.

Feel free to PM me if you have any further questions that i can address.

- Michael

edit: If you would like the VIN number then go and see the new owner.

edit again: Even HSV dub this car as the grange. Go have a look - http://www.hsv.com.au/hsv/showroom/c...S&Model=grange

[ducker85]

had a feeling it would be a VR vs VS or a series 1 vs 2 vs 3 with the build number count.

[roostahsv]

So set me straight cos I'm no commodore enthusist I just have 1... Theirs 2 HSV build no 70 granges?

[roostahsv]

I only got my back up cos of ur earlier piks it dosnt have anything the granges iv seen or reed about have and just going on what 1 of the lads (owns his from new and Holden dealer at the time)... Am very interested to catch up n have a look at this car but...

[pedrotski]

I only got my back up cos of ur earlier piks it dosnt have anything the granges iv seen or reed about have and just going on what 1 of the lads (owns his from new and Holden dealer at the time)... Am very interested to catch up n have a look at this car but...

In simple terms, You have the series 2 or 3 grange. Not the series 1. This is an original series 1 with the Senator interior/seats etc, Not fake woodgrain. Like Daniel posted above, I sold the car a while ago and from what i hear you have already met the new owner.