help me make more powerrrrrr.

[VT6er]

hey lads i cant decide what to do for my next mods for my ecotec VT. not looking to blow it or turbo it just yet but will be turboed down the track some time. and id rather put money into a 6 that can beat 8s. more fun . so far is:

extactors and 2 1/2 inch single pipe
MSD coils and leads
POD and 70mm TB
Rocker covers and ultra high ratio rockers
Pedders suspension and 19's

have got but not installed yet:
4.11 diff and housing with minispool
steel piston kit, high stally, stage two shift kit for 4l60e auto
crow springs
stainless twin throttle body intake and pipework
72mm MAF (needs tuning)

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

First and foremost would be a tune. But as for beating 8's.....yep...good luck with that.

[Cobez]

Wrong sectiooonnnnnnnnn.............

[VT6er]

hahaha your obviously a v8 owner. its my first car, after this will be a v8 and the rest of my cars will be but for now i dont mind spending a bit and cant wait to turbo it. a tune you say? how much you reckon?

[Cobez]

hey lads i cant decide what to do for my next mods for my ecotec VT. not looking to blow it or turbo it just yet but will be turboed down the track some time. and id rather put money into a 6 that can beat 8s. more fun . so far is:

extactors and 2 1/2 inch single pipe
MSD coils and leads
POD and 70mm TB
Rocker covers and ultra high ratio rockers
Pedders suspension and 19's

have got but not installed yet:
4.11 diff and housing with minispool
steel piston kit, high stally, stage two shift kit for 4l60e auto
crow springs
stainless twin throttle body intake and pipework
72mm MAF (needs tuning)

I wouldn't put twin throats on an internally stock Ecotec man. Any reason for the springs and pistons or are they just to freshen the existing gear up? If you are gonna have your block apart to do the pistons, throw a cam in it and some good pistons, or just stroke it. Sell the stally and diff to fund the cam and pistons.

[VT6er]

steel piston kit for auto trans. replaces alloys. includes 3-4th piston, forward piston, over run piston and spring retainer to suit the steel piston. they seal better and shouldnt fatigue or crack. i thought the valve springs may be a little worn and could be losing a bit of power from them seeing as the engines done 234,000kms so i got some performance crows.

[Cobez]

Ohhhh right right right now i get ya. Hmmmm, well since the block won't really be apart, i wouldn't bother with twin throats, the Ecotec won't suck in enough air to warrant twin throats.

Ebay now have over the radiator air intakes for the Ecotec, problem is i'm not sure how well they work etc. Sell the twin throats man you will get a fair bit for them, then use the cash towards a blower, or towards a cam or a heap of little power mods.

[Vt_vic]

best to save the money when you do get an 8.i know of someone who put a big cam in their ecotec and was slower then my stock ss and used a shitload more fuel too

[VT6er]

yep yep thats wat everyone says. i know its tru but i rly want to play around with this im learning heaps. and i cant own a v8 till im off my Ps in september next year

[And_ROOS]

Id just wait to be honest, save this money for either buying an 8 or dropping a 5 litre into your existing car like my friends did and like i plan to.

[WogBoyz]

hey lads i cant decide what to do for my next mods for my ecotec VT. not looking to blow it or turbo it just yet but will be turboed down the track some time. and id rather put money into a 6 that can beat 8s. more fun . so far is:

extactors and 2 1/2 inch single pipe
MSD coils and leads
POD and 70mm TB
Rocker covers and ultra high ratio rockers
Pedders suspension and 19's

have got but not installed yet:
4.11 diff and housing with minispool
steel piston kit, high stally, stage two shift kit for 4l60e auto
crow springs
stainless twin throttle body intake and pipework
72mm MAF (needs tuning)

i wouldnt worry about a bigger maf either mate, iv heard the stock one is way more then enough even for the mod's you've done it will be easily flowing fine

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

hahaha your obviously a v8 owner. its my first car, after this will be a v8 and the rest of my cars will be but for now i dont mind spending a bit and cant wait to turbo it. a tune you say? how much you reckon?

Currently have a V6 and 3 V8's, but that isn't why I made that comment. It's just simple truth. You will spend thousands on a V6 to just make it barely keep up with an 8 unless you go FI, so be content with beating other V6's. The only real way to make more power without a turbo or SC is to stroke it. That, diff gears and a good tune will see you leaving most V6's in your dust.

I don't know if the few tuners on here can do the VT, might have to ask them. Greenfoam and delcowizzard are the two main ones.

[VT6er]

kk cheers all of you, mite look into stroking ay depending on cost, and start looking at tuning.

[don0xer]

the average ive seen around with rockers/exahust/tune is around 135-140rwkw which isnt much... and will cost thousands just to get that far. im guessing your on your P's most likely P1's just wait out your time and buy an 8... or buy one now and try to stay below the radar :P

[lout]

Ditch the pod and go back to cold air intake, see Dr Bob and get a chip

[acarmody]

First and foremost would be a tune. But as for beating 8's.....yep...good luck with that.

Not so, stock 5 Litre V8s aren't that hard to beat, especially when the idiot driver doesn't know how to clutch properly.

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

But that's not really the car though is it?

[acarmody]

Well that scenario wasn't, but the stock 5L really doesn't have that uch up'and'go. A decent bolt on Ecotec can keep up with one till about 100km/h, don't know after that. But then again a 'decent' bolt-on ecotec costs thousands.

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

Exactly my point though. How much do you want to spend on a VT V6 auto?

[TrikkBen]

Man, keep your ecotec stock, it's a waist of time.... I was going to get into my engine then had a think... with the coin I'll blow on the 3.8, I could own a LS1 or 308 and make heaps more power.... It is simply not worth it, unless you are passionate about the 3.8L. Esspecially not if you plan to pluck it out and put a V8 in...

Ben

[johnvtls1]

dunno why no one suggests high stalls for the v6? there just about the best bang for buck mod u can go for the 8's, id imagine its the same for a 6. So id say stick with the stall, put the gears in and get a mail order tune and it will go pretty well for what it is. Like cobez said get rid of the TTB, probably wont do too much, maybe put in a cam if u have some cash and piss of the pod filter, other then that the only thing u really can do is stroke it or go FI which you dont really want to do.

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

The V6 takes off pretty well without one. It doesn't need to get the revs up for a good launch.

[Vt_vic]

wouldnt bother stroking it it costs a lot.just chuck in some 4.11's best bang for buck mod

[benjamino]

kk cheers all of you, mite look into stroking ay depending on cost, and start looking at tuning.

to stroke a v6 would be in the thousands of dollars, and for that, u cud go FI..although i have seen a few cammed, stroked 6's etc, the only way ull ever even BEGIN to keep up with 8's in a 6 is with FI..

obviusly if your young, money isnt growin on trees, so why waste thousands of dollars stroking the ecotec and doing other numerous things that wont get u close to 8's when u cud save SO much money and time and either go FI straight out or go buy an 8.

its how i learnt mate, had my vx v6 and wanted to extract heaps of power from it, but with the ecotec, unless u go FI its not worth the thousands of dollars and timewasting..
go the 8!!
hoo-hah!

[JEZIMP]

hey guys. this is my plan for my VY II S manual, i know you all say save it for an 8 and all that, im on these restrictions for the next 3 years.....so im happy to put some effort to smoke most non charged 6's out there, wat you think..any suggestions

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