Got a 1998 vt Senator with the

[nitrowarrior]

355 Cubic inch stroker and 6 speed holinger manual...Car is in original condition,,,Firstly,people are asking how I can prove it is a 355stroker with a 6 speed hollinger gearbox and not a 308 with a gen36speed connected.....(removed, read rules)


What I want to know.....How many of the VT senator came out of the factory witht he hand built 355stroker motor and hollinger gearbox option???Is this car worth keeping for properity,,and will it be worth more than the normal senator with a 308 in it...Any ideas what the car is worth,,,Shannons say 19500 sight unseen,,,is that about right???

Any help appreciated...

[HARVZ-6]

firstly, theres no such thing as a 308 vt,

its either a 5l (304) or the ls1

[STEALTHY™]

firstly, theres no such thing as a 308 vt,

its either a 5l (304) or the ls1

He said stroker motor, which wouldn't be the 5L.


Not sure exactly what they are, but it will be a 350 or 355 which is a 5.7L


Never ever heard of the gearbox in these being reffered to as a hollinger gearbox. Likewise another member on here has a VT with the stroker, and only has a 5 speed, and said it was factory like that.

[stocky]

i wouldve thought they would be six speed. the VR and VS were im fairly sure. unless the other guys box went bang and someone threw a 5 speed on there

[nitrowarrior]

firstly, theres no such thing as a 308 vt,

its either a 5l (304) or the ls1

Sweet, 308/304 same thing just injected over non...Block is 308,, ls1 is the 350CHEV motor
Holden built a 355stroker engine and 6speed hollinger gearbox setup, many applied in GTS however from knowledge small build number option with senators and other HSV models??,,completely different from your LS1..

Further more 355stroker is a known small number configuration...Could you kindly keep you comments tot he post and not to attempts at showing how smart you are..You advice was not helpful Know your subject before you wade into anything.


Can anyone help or am I going to get this type jester giving me useless knowledge,

[s1knt]

355 Cubic inch stroker and 6 speed holinger manual...Car is in original condition,,,Firstly,people are asking how I can prove it is a 355stroker with a 6 speed hollinger gearbox and not a 308 with a gen36speed connected.....Second question,,,anyone want to make me an offer..Car can be viewed in Bairnsdale, Victoria


What I want to know.....How many of the VT senator came out of the factory witht he hand built 355stroker motor and hollinger gearbox option???Is this car worth keeping for properity,,and will it be worth more than the normal senator with a 308 in it...Any ideas what the car is worth,,,Shannons say 19500 sight unseen,,,is that about right???

Any help appreciated...

do you have any pix of the car?

[HARVZ-6]

He said stroker motor, which wouldn't be the 5L.


Not sure exactly what they are, but it will be a 350 or 355 which is a 5.7L


Never ever heard of the gearbox in these being reffered to as a hollinger gearbox. Likewise another member on here has a VT with the stroker, and only has a 5 speed, and said it was factory like that.

im pretty sure they came out with a 355 with 220kw give away was thye 220i badges


there was one for sale in a car yard on south road i few months back

[nitrowarrior]

Thanks Harv thats better..Badges can be faked....I have heard that if you take out number 1 spark plug and check bore depth at top and bottom of stroke,,,There should be 3 inches(thereabouts) for a 308/304engine or 3.5inches on a 355,,,can anyone confirm this information..Oh yeah I do have pictures but not on computer yet,,,stay tuned for pics

[STEALTHY™]

im pretty sure they came out with a 355 with 220kw give away was thye 220i badges


there was one for sale in a car yard on south road i few months back

Like i said, wasn't sure if they were 350 or 355, either way you said only the 5L. Most people forget the holden stroker motor.


Stocky not sure man, i asked the guy if it was genuine cause i had never seen either way, you'd think since VR and VS had the 6 speed that VT strokers would too.




And to the OP, if your claiming people don't know what they're talking about, PLEASE don't post that the Holden released LS1 is a 350 chev. Its a 346, no ifs buts or maybes. YOU don't know what your talking about in that regard (which will make people not even bother with the rest of your post )

[undar8ed1]

Sweet, 308/304 same thing just injected over non...Block is 308,, ls1 is the 350CHEV motor
Holden built a 355stroker engine and 6speed hollinger gearbox setup, many applied in GTS however from knowledge small build number option with senators and other HSV models??,,completely different from your LS1..

Further more 355stroker is a known small number configuration...Could you kindly keep you comments tot he post and not to attempts at showing how smart you are..You advice was not helpful Know your subject before you wade into anything.


Can anyone help or am I going to get this type jester giving me useless knowledge,

VK`s were the first 304 they were carbied making the VH the last 308, I know why they did this (brocky and the mountain) but CBF getting in deep.

VR/VS GTS stroker 215i
VT GTS stroker 220i
VTII berlina 220kw lol lol lol.

As for LS1 and the 350 chev the only thing they have in common is there made by chev and share the same displacment everything else is different.

[HARVZ-6]

Sweet, 308/304 same thing just injected over non...Block is 308,, ls1 is the 350CHEV motor
Holden built a 355stroker engine and 6speed hollinger gearbox setup, many applied in GTS however from knowledge small build number option with senators and other HSV models??,,completely different from your LS1..

Further more 355stroker is a known small number configuration...Could you kindly keep you comments tot he post and not to attempts at showing how smart you are..You advice was not helpful Know your subject before you wade into anything.


Can anyone help or am I going to get this type jester giving me useless knowledge,

small details that can lead people astray, small things can change alot of things mate up to you whether you take the information in or not

The best thing to do would be phone HSV and ask that way youll get a exact number mate

if you can give them your engine and vin number they should be able to tell you what its running from factory

[SIG-054]

The 304 5L in the vt never had a 6spd gearbox, only the strokers. Nice find.

[STEALTHY™]

VK`s were the first 304 they were carbied making the VH the last 308, I know why they did this (brocky and the mountain) but CBF getting in deep.

VR/VS GTS stroker 215i
VT GTS stroker 220i
VTII berlina 220kw lol lol lol.

As for LS1 and the 350 chev the only thing they have in common is there made by chev and share the same displacment everything else is different.

the change from 308 to 304 was during the VK build period, so VK technically were the last to have the 308

[undar8ed1]

the change from 308 to 304 was during the VK build period, so VK technically were the last to have the 308

Yes I believe that the VK 84 had them that refreshes it for me.

[STEALTHY™]

Yes I believe that the VK 84 had them that refreshes it for me.

You can tell with the numbers which one it had. I had a 304 in my VK, but it was an 85.

[andyos]

We are talking series 1 here right???
I know with the VT GTS it came with a 220i stock which was the 5.0l (304) V8 which HSV stroked out to 5.7l (not to be confused with the series 2 Gen III 5.7l)
I believe that other HSVs could be optioned up when bought....
Check out this page....
HSV Senator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[HARVZ-6]

Wasn't the most power out of a 5l 195kW?

[STEALTHY™]

Wasn't the most power out of a 5l 195kW?

Yes.

The holden stroker which is the 220i is different obviously.

[HARVZ-6]

Yes.

The holden stroker which is the 220i is different obviously.

well its obviously not a 5l :P

[STEALTHY™]

well its obviously not a 5l :P

I wasn't sure who you were referring to tho, the guy above you said 220i and stroker, nothing about 5L

[HARVZ-6]

the VT GTS it came with a 220i stock which was the 5.0l (304) V8..

this is what im talking about haha

[STEALTHY™]

the VT GTS it came with a 220i stock which was the 5.0l (304) V8..

this is what im talking about haha

The 220i refers to the stroker motor, which is a 5.7L

So you know

[stocky]

the VT GTS it came with a 220i stock which was the 5.0l (304) V8..

this is what im talking about haha

did you not read anything in this thread

[andyos]

Sorry i worded it wrong but you know what i mean....

[s1knt]

i am now educated