Help. Vt Holden Commodore problems.
Ok. So we've just had (still having) major problems with my Vt Commo. Car got driven up onto the high way at about 70km then lost power and then just died. Car got towed and stuff and the mech had a look at it said there was rust to some of the plugs and so he replaced the plugs and leads. Then he came across water in the oil , And said that its either the head or we have a gasket leak , He kept it at the work shop took it for some test drives and then told me that it has a rough idle (its had it for ages) So he has put 3 bottles of Camyseal(or however you spell it)? Through it and its rough but running. Shudders alot and has alot less power then it usually does. Its blowing steam , smoke and its piking a high temp. The Mech has said it really need to be taken on a drive for about 20 mins to let it all run through and shit but he said not to risk it cause it might break down. Ok So any suggestions on what i should do? New Motor? Or New car? , If new motor what do you suggest Ecotec or Aloytec?
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You can pickup ecotec motors for cheap on flebay. I wouldn't be putting a aloytec in a vt.
Yeah , Its already got a aloytec in it. Its over-heating badly randomly more so when idling
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you already have an alloytec in it? If you have done the conversion, perhaps the tune maybe the issue, would account for most problems and would be the root all problems.Originally Posted by MechanicFreak
Yeah , Its already got a aloytec in it. Its over-heating badly randomly more so when idling
but then again i doubt u have done it, as i dont think anyone would put an alloytec in a vt.
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The Mech told me it had an Alloytec in it but i've just gone and had a look at it and its got an eco in it. Its running like shit and over heating badly like every five mins I have to stop and let it cool down. So I've been told its a waste of money to keep working on it and to either scrap the car or get a new Engine for it.
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well if your mechanic thinks a vt comes with a alloytec then maybe you dont want him diagnoseing your car! lol
You will need to post some more info.
How many kilometers on the car
Is there a loss of coolant?
Is there water in the oil?
Most likely you have a blown gasket somewhere. Either a head gasket or inlet manifold gaskets. Ecotechs don't deal with overheating too well. Have it checked out by another mechanic before you go to the possibly unneeded expense of another motor.
Last edited by VSHeaven; 11-02-2010 at 05:44 PM.
There is like 400000km on it i think. No loss that i can see. And yeah there is some water in the oil. We've put three bottles of camiseal through it but it doesn't seem to be doing any good. He said the only way to really know if its the head is to send it away to get tested which is more money and ive just put $200 into it to get the leads and plugs on her done so yeah everything seems to be pointing towards the new motor i have found one at a wreckers for $ 660 and have got some one that will charge me about $600 to put it in. What do you think? I did all the fluids in her at about 5:00 and she was like really low on water so i topped it up and took the car for a drive only about ten mins and she didn't pike a temp then but then about 6:30 i took it for another spin and she lasted on normal temp for about 10 mins then piked right up high and had to stop and let her cool down. Its frustrating. Everyone is just telling me to dump it and get a new one but yeah
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With 400,000 kms it might be worth your while putting another engine in it. Although you can get more out of them it is getting on the high side and not really worth spending too much more money on that engine. Shop around a bit more and you should be able to get a better deal than the one you have at the moment.
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Seriously mate, I'd also be looking for another mechanic!!
First things first ..
Whats in it Ecotec or Alloytec ?
If your mechanic hasn't pulled the heads off, how does he know they have to be sent awayto get tested ? Could just be a gasket....
My suggestion - rip the heads off for a look see. If you choose to replace, rip the heads off the replacement for a look see while the engines out. It's alwasy good insurance to see whats going on inside.
It's an ecotech by my figuring. Who would put an alloytech in a VT with 400,000 clicks? Come to think of it, who would put an alloytech in any car?
Some wreckers fits the motors they sell
Will work out alot cheaper
who would put 3 bottles of chemweld in a car and call himself a mechanic
Ok so guys. I was told to bleed it and did and i have driven her now for about 20mins and haven't piked a temp at all. What do you think? Prob fixed?
Heat is always a symptom, not a cause.
problems not fixed, just hidden.
Your first problem was the mechanic! He has no idea by the sound of things.
Your cars problem sounds like either an inlet manifold gasket, or head gasket.
My money would be on the head gasket, its not hard to change, do them both and change the inlet gasket at the same time. Cost you like what? $200 including fluids and ordinary gaskets
Unless of course you can find a decent replacement motor, that you know is in good nick (don't always take the wreckers word for it - I used to work for one and he was........... creative with problematic motors), with at least half the k's yours has done, and do the heads on that before it goes in.
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