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    well the car went into the mechanic for a service and check out a few noises.
    so he said because the car is lowerd the bumpstops are gone and a few things worn, i cant remember at the moment. i dont know what sort of lowering has been done as i bought it already been done. he said because its lowered it just going to wear stuff out quicker, it that right?
    who would be the best to get the bumpstops and the rest sorted by? is it a big job or expensive? im in sydney city by the way. any mechanics interested in earning a few extra quid?

    he said because the brake discs are drilled and vented and groved or something that they need special brake pads, so they dont wear out like mad, $400 for the pads. does that sound right?

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    define special brake pads ? selecting the right pads for the job is the key too hard a pad and soft use of the brakes will wear out the disc's quickly and too soft a pad wont brake real well when hot but the disc's wont wear as quick , check the bendix website for further details , as for your suspension if its on the bump stops replacing them wont fix the problem its more the ride height of the vehicle at fault to begin with.

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    so what is the cure for the suspension, new coils? that will be expensive wont it?

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    better springs with higher rating , kings are rubbish soft and saggy after awhile , stick with pedders , maybe raise the height alittle check your shockers , loaded length and free length

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    GSL for brake pads. I'd go with the police spec QFM's on vented and slotted rotors.

    No - your suspension components will absolutley not wear out faster, simply beacause it's lowered (assuming it was PROPERLEY lowered). The amount of wear the parts cop will be exactly the same as normal parts. many aftermarket parts actually last longer than factory parts, so you may find that durability increase.

    That being said, it has to have been done porperley in the first place. I'd go to pedders and get a full suspension check. They will tell you what your toe/camber/etc angles are all currenlty at. Big numbers (greater than say 3-4%) will mean that something is probably not set up right.

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    ye im going to go into them tomorow hopefully and get the 28 point check. hopefully it wont be huge money to sort out!

    where would i get the qfm brake pads? do they cause excessive wear on the brake rotors?

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    right went to pedders, got the 28 point check. all up its gona cost 2300. i nearly had a heart attack.
    new front shocks 560
    sway bar bushes, have worn links 190
    worn upper mounts on upper bushes 170
    lower bushes-movement in tower bushes 560
    radius bushes 390
    bumpstops- boots broken, bumpstops worn 90
    rear shocks 300

    so a bit dissapointing, especially as the pre purchase inspection said all the suspension parts had minimal wear!!

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    are pedders the best to go with? i know they are expensive, but are they that more expensive? i have heard they are meant to be good though

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    Ignore half the shit posted in here.

    The bumpstops are gone because it sounds like it was bodgily lowered with standard shocks.
    Standard shocks wear quickly when lowered and bottom the shocks out.
    Get yourself some proper shortened shocks to fix that problem.

    As for wearing your brakes that is a load of shit.
    Its how you use your brakes as to how they wear.

    Rear bumpstops should be fine. If their split then get some from a wreckers for next to nothing.
    Front bumpstops come with the shock package when you buy them.

    Also dont go to pedders. their f'n rip offs and will see you comming.

    Go to autobarn ect... for about $500 youll have yourself some decent shortened shocks and get a mech to fit if your not keen yourself.
    As for the link bushes ect.. they are cheap. roughly $20 per kit. give or take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strgas View Post
    better springs with higher rating , kings are rubbish soft and saggy after awhile , stick with pedders , maybe raise the height alittle check your shockers , loaded length and free length
    another sucker for advertisment.

    do you work for pedders? cous their useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunamix View Post
    GSL for brake pads. I'd go with the police spec QFM's on vented and slotted rotors.

    No - your suspension components will absolutley not wear out faster, simply beacause it's lowered (assuming it was PROPERLEY lowered). The amount of wear the parts cop will be exactly the same as normal parts. many aftermarket parts actually last longer than factory parts, so you may find that durability increase.

    That being said, it has to have been done porperley in the first place. I'd go to pedders and get a full suspension check. They will tell you what your toe/camber/etc angles are all currenlty at. Big numbers (greater than say 3-4%) will mean that something is probably not set up right.
    agree 100% (except for the pedders part. they are absolutly fk'n useless and are just after a quick buck.)

    specialists that dont understand & fulla bull!

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    Lol... yeah... don't go to pedders for the inspection check.

    They basically just list every component of the supsension... You could take a off the showroom floor, brand new car there and they would say you have to replace half the suspension.

    In regards to the special brake pads... yeah you can get something more suited to the performacne rotors once your current ones wear out. But 400 bux is laughable.

    PM GSLRallySport. He is a sponsor of the site, he sells quality products, he give great advice and his prices are VERY competative.

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    As Jesterarts and the others said steer clear of pedders, they are the biggest rip-offs known to man.
    That 2300 bucks you got quoted, spend a quarter of that and your car will be fixed.

    I went there to get a 28point check and a wheel alignment after replacing front and rear shocks and springs as well as every and I mean every bush, and they still tried to tell me

    'nah mate rear shocks are shot, you should probably do the fronts as well'

    And I'm like dude, did you even look at my car, or is that the spiel you give everyone that walks in?

    He just looked at me all stupid like and then had the nerve to charge me $120 for a wheel alignment!

    There should be a code of conduct for Automotive repair places that they have to abide by.

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    A couple of years ago, I was hunting down some lowerd springs for a friend's Yaris. Kingsprings were the only ones who had them, although Pedders had them 'being designed and due out in a couple of months'. After a bit of chasing around, turns out the 'sportsrider' springs were designed off the Kindsprings equilivant, and were almost double the price. I also found a $100 variance between Pedders stores for the same set of springs supplied and fitted.. hmmmmmmmmm
    I just love the way other motorists on the highway think it's an unmarked cop car.........

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    ok thanks for that info, so now how do i go to for this stuff to get sorted? who is reputable. im new to sydney, moved here a year and a half ago from ireland, so i still dont know who i can trust. is there anyone reputable in inner west sydney, near camperdown?

    and also where would be good to get the brakes done? just want the right pads put on as i dont know much bout cars.

    well i do, ive rebuilt a 1979 mini, but it doesnt have all this fancy electronic stuff!! just good old carbs!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubguy View Post
    ok thanks for that info, so now how do i go to for this stuff to get sorted? who is reputable. im new to sydney, moved here a year and a half ago from ireland, so i still dont know who i can trust. is there anyone reputable in inner west sydney, near camperdown?

    and also where would be good to get the brakes done? just want the right pads put on as i dont know much bout cars.

    well i do, ive rebuilt a 1979 mini, but it doesnt have all this fancy electronic stuff!! just good old carbs!!
    usualy Kmart tyre and auto are good.
    otherwise ask round panel beaters and wreckers... they are usualy pretty cluey when it comes to word of mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubguy View Post
    id heard kmart were krap
    Depends on the mechanic, but their not going to feed you bullshit.

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    Pedders do the best check, because they don't try and sell you tyres or wheels as well.

    I don't get them to do all the work, just the things I can't do myself. I get most of my suspension and brake components from GSL, and odds and sods from pedders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunamix View Post
    Pedders do the best check, because they don't try and sell you tyres or wheels as well.

    I don't get them to do all the work, just the things I can't do myself. I get most of my suspension and brake components from GSL, and odds and sods from pedders.
    Thats bullshit. I went to pedders in ballarat and they quoted me for 2 new tyres saying that they were worn on the rear because i didnt have a camber kit. (not that they were going to wear but that they were worn)
    Little did they know the tyres were only driven 2km straight from wheels australia where they were bought new and fitted.

    If you trust them then thats your choice i guess. each to their own.

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    there must be someone on here who can recomend somewhere good in sydney? ive got to say i dont know if i could trust kmart. heard a few stories.

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    190 clams for link pins and bushes!!! wtf! i wish i cold get those sorts of dollars for them. i only charge 45 fitted.

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    keep shopping around dude and you'll find someone who's not going to tear you a new one. try the smaller workshops around your area. maybe outer suburbs?dont just listen to the first one you go to.

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