vx speakers subs etc hellp
hey people im wanting a new sound system in my car i have a few questions i need to ask cause im not sure:
1) do the vx's have rear speakers i know they have some in the rear doors, but is there anything at the back near the carpart area?
2) will a 4 channel amp power my front and back speakers (front kenwood 6" 2way) (back 6.5" 3way)
3) And will a mono block power up 2 subs in a box?
i only have 2 preouts on my kenwood deck and wondering if i can do the following as i asked
thanx for any help!
Chef Jay in Port Douglas
i had a similar setup on mine w/ the boot, had one sub off a monobloc and a 4ch powering 4 6by9s in the boot,Originally Posted by wrxstippp
but i am changing my sound system similar to what you are doing w/ the door speakers, just put the more powerful speaker set up the front of the car.
so answering your questions
1) if you are referring to the parcel shelf in the very rear, next to the window, then no they do not have any there,
2) yes that will work out ive been told, i am in the process of getting myself an amp to do that, just need to get time.
3) the mono will need a fair bit of strength just depending on the subs.
all in all sounds like itll work out well
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mine didn't have any in the parcel shelf either...but i put some there myself lol. you just have to cut out the carpet along the grooves. but to get out the parcel shelf you have to take out the back seats. then remove the clips carefully so you don't break them...although they are very cheap from autobarn. then you have to punch out the metal plates in the holes where the speakers would go. then drill holes for screws for the speakers (by setting the speaker in the whole and marking). then you have to run wires to the head uni under the kick panels. they're easy to remove. and ye. the speakers that go in the parcel shelf are 6x9. they give pretty good base. oh yeah and you can get speaker covers for the parcel shelf from autobarn for about $20 and they fit perfectly. i wouldn't suggest putting the speaker covers that come with the speakers coz it would look stupid...not to mention the cutting grooves for the stock ones would still be visible.
thanx guys for your replies my final question is what maybe a 2channel amp be better powering the sub rather the mono block, the subs are 2 boxed producing i thonk 1500w and 500rms, maybe bridging it thanx for any help
Chef Jay in Port Douglas
w/ amp your 2 and 4 and however many other channel amps are best suited for your speakers, and your monos are best for your subs. you can get a mono to power 2 subs, i had a mono powering 2 subs in my old magna.
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Donati..Whoa Green
A mono amp will ALWAYS be better for powering subs, its what they are designed for. Just make sure you wire them up properly and you get the impedance right or else you risk destroying the sub or amp or both. If your not sure, than post up the model numbers for the subs and amp.
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thanx guys um how do you power to subs in a box they have 4 terminals if you know what i mean 2 on one side of the sub and another 2 on the other side of the sub so how can a mono block power them any ideas thanx they are rated about 250rms each.
Donati..Whoa Green
OK we will need model numbers for this. It means the subs are dual voice coil (DVC) subs, no problem, just give us model numbers for subs AND amp. I will post up a diagram when you have done so.
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ok i can give you my sub it is this one
Audioline - AL12D 12 INCH BOXED SUBWOOFER (double) | Car Sound, Subwoofers : JB HI-FI can you also tell me if it has dual voice coils or it has only 2 terminals for the 2 subs
and my amp is this
Ryda Car Audio - Clarion Car Audio APX1301 Car Amplifier($158.85)
also i havent bought the sub yet but thinking of 2morrow thanx for any help
Donati..Whoa Green
OK well I can find dick all information about those subs. No offense but cheap crap. I can't find any decent impedance data or anything, JB site just says 4-ohms, but you say they have 4-terminals per sub.
Can you get something like this Ryda Car Audio - Pioneer TS-W308D4 12" 1400W Subwoofer($168.85) , I'm sure JB will have it, and the Pioneer entry stuff is very good for the price. You need a 4-ohm DVC sub, or a 2-Ohm Single Voil Coil (SVC) sub to get the max from that amp.
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-Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
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-Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short Phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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no affonce takken dnt worry um i also seen someone selling 12" mtx 2 subs in a box un 4500 thunder series? rated i think 225 rms per sub?
any good all i know its mtx and a 4500 series subs
Donati..Whoa Green
Last time I checked MTX were pretty pricey, but they will be much better than Audioline. If you want two of them then you will need the T-4512-04 model.
Maybe also have a look at some Kicker COMPs.
I still believe the Pioneer will give you best results for the price, also perfectly matches your amp.
Maybe also just talk to the salesman and tell them you have 400wrms at 2-ohms, and what they can recommend.
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-Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short Phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan (1986)
nwz thanx acarmody so if i put 400wrms in it theres max peak is 225 rms for each it shouldny be a problem putting 400wrms and also will it be loud at 400wrms thanx.
also is theres anything i can do to my alternator all battery to hold charge as i will be draining quite alot when the system is turned up?
Moto X Champion!
research the "big 3" upgrade for your alternator/battery. basically adding heavier power cable from alternator to battery and bigger earth cables from engine to chassis and battery to chassis.
my volts went from 13.1v at idle to 14.2v at idle and when the system is up loud it holds volts easier and less dimming of lights...however 2000wrms is always gonna dim lights...lol
yes thanx mate i will look into that im wondering im sure its been covered about 1000 times will a standard 6" inch speakers bolt straight in the front and the back doors of a vx has anyone had any trouble all they just bolt in thanx.
Donati..Whoa Green
If you have two subs rated at 225wrms each then your 400wrms amp won't overpower them as they will be getting 200wrms each.
Most 6" speakers will go straight in, no need to change anything, though a few may need the back of the plastic basket the speakers screw into to be cut out. A stanley knife and one minute later, all solved.
-Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)
-Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
-Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short Phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan (1986)
thanks for that could yuu just run yur new speakers of the deck which is rated 52x4 24rms
and just use one of the rca to power a amp and sub?
Donati..Whoa Green
You can but not much point, won't sound much better than stock. Will be a bit better and louder, but ideally an amp not far down the track would be good. And yeah just run the RCA to mono-amp.
-Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)
-Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
-Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short Phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan (1986)
ok i eventually bought my subs 2 fusions reactors boxed 450rms and i also got a 2 channel amp can i bridge the amp to power the sub ( the sub only has 2 terminals at the back middle).
thanx i can give the model of the amp and subs
i basicaly bought the sub seperate (FUSION Electronics )
and i also bought this amp seperate - RE-AM45020 2 CHANNEL AMP)
can the amp be bridged to power the subs thanx
Donati..Whoa Green
You can technically bridge the amp to power the subs, but the amp will only put out 250wrms, whereas the subs can go to 450wrms.
-Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)
-Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
-Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short Phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan (1986)
yh true mate but also the mono block put out 240rms thats the only reason i bought the 2 channel 2 bridge anyone know a good mono block amp with around 350-420 rms? thanx
also my subs are rated 900w 450rms and my amp is rated 400w and 250wrms bridged will it be alritee using the amp even though the subs are 900w and the amp is only 450w?
Last edited by wrxstippp; 19-04-2010 at 10:48 PM.
Donati..Whoa Green
Yeah it will be fine, just make sure you set the gain properly, if unsure then get a pro to do if for a few bucks. If you set it too high, to chase a little more bass, you could fry your amp or subs, or both.
As for getting a mono at 450wrms, it has to make that power at 4-ohms, which is going to cost a bit.
-Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)
-Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
-Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short Phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan (1986)
Don't buy Audioline. They're made "exclusively" for JB HIFI, but in reality, they're just made in a giant factory and stamped with the audioline logo. Their PA Speakers are exactly the same. Cost around $800 for a pair on 15" active speakers, but the half the price, you can get the same item, just with a different brand name slapped on them for half the price elsewhere.
Stick with a well known brand such as Pioneer, Alpine, Kenwood, Clarion, Eclipse, or whatever. You'll be glad you did in the long run.
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