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    Question 5L VT Calais or HSV Clubsport VS 185i

    Hey everyone,

    Just in the process of deciding what car to get and it would be great if I could get everyones opinions...

    I wouldn't mind getting a good VT Calais I have found though I am pressuming I would have to spend alot of money upgrading stuff compared to if I were to get a Clubsport VS. (As in extractors, LSD??, etc etc)

    They are both in excellent condition with full log book history and low km's.

    If I get the VT Calais i'd probably give it a full GTO body kit etc so I'd need to spend lots of money by the looks of it if I chose the VT :/


    Any helps much appreciated,

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    Hey bud,

    I'd go the HSV,
    The Calais are nice, but hey I Just Want one......Says it all :-)

    Good luck with whatever you decide on.
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    the vt is nice, but i would go with the vs clubby, plus they are lighter than the vt and look alot better looks wise...they will hold value abit better than the vt calais
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vt_vic View Post
    how much are you willing to spend why not go the ls1 vt clubby ??
    Hey, Didn't want to spend that much so I can leave room for upgrades. Don't want to spend over $10k on the car, that way I can start working on it.

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    VS clubby for sure
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    I am going to go against the flow here and say get the Calais. There is no way I could go back to a VS interior now. You will get full elec windows, 8 way elec seats (possible leather), climate control, fog lamps

    Take a look at mine.




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    Quote Originally Posted by 50LTRv8 View Post
    I am going to go against the flow here and say get the Calais. There is no way I could go back to a VS interior now. You will get full elec windows, 8 way elec seats (possible leather), climate control, fog lamps

    Take a look at mine.
    Yeah i know what you mean though the Clubby has power windows, really good seats actually, the calais doen't have leather.. but they're better than the stock VT seats.
    I just want something that stands out, so I'd probably have to do a full GTO kit on the Calais and then i'd need the full exhaust etc so it's going to need a bit of money spent, thats the only thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyC View Post
    Yeah i know what you mean though the Clubby has power windows, really good seats actually, the calais doen't have leather.. but they're better than the stock VT seats.
    I just want something that stands out, so I'd probably have to do a full GTO kit on the Calais and then i'd need the full exhaust etc so it's going to need a bit of money spent, thats the only thing.
    Think you've answered your own question then mate. If your after that HSV, stands out from the crowd look, get the VS Clubby. Will cost you way more to mod the VT the way you want it. New kits + painting etc adds up very quickly. Plus as also mentioned, the VT is heavier therefore the VS will actually be quicker even though its a model older

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    my vote would be vtII calais. you can be a long time owning a car. and it is worth a couple of extra grand. just add the extras slower.

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    If you have you're heart set on one of these then i personally would go VT calais. But for around 10k you could get a VT 5l Clubsport. Just my 2 cents worth....

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    You might want to check out the insurance on the Clubby as it could be a lot more than the Calais, maybe being an older model HSV it might not be as bad, when I bought my VX SS I was considering a VX Clubby but the insurance was too high compared to the SS. Maybe do a ring around and compare premiums on the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyos View Post
    If you have you're heart set on one of these then i personally would go VT calais. But for around 10k you could get a VT 5l Clubsport. Just my 2 cents worth....
    Hmmmm, it would a be a poor condition clubby for 10K. VT 5L SS's are between 8-11K Most VT clubbys i seen were 13-14K+

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca86 View Post
    Hmmmm, it would a be a poor condition clubby for 10K. VT 5L SS's are between 8-11K Most VT clubbys i seen were 13-14K+
    Yeah that is correct.

    Well..... the VS Clubby sold, but I found a 93 HSV VP Clubsport 5th Anniversary that looks in great condition.

    Still not sure what to get haha... Does anyone know how much a GTO Bodykit would cost for the VT? and a really good sounding exhaust? (I love the old muscle car sound)
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    GT Bodykit would be upwards of $1200 i would imagine, as front bars only are stil $650 on ebay. Plus painting. Which is exxy on its own. Just a good cat back exhaust you'll get for maybe $500 but if your gonna mod it yourself get extractors etc as well. But that ups the price a lot of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca86 View Post
    How many kms on the VP? And any service history with it?
    The VP's done 214, 561 it just says logbooks but im hopefully going to see it tonight.. is there anything in particular i should look for or check when I go see it?

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    Logbooks should hopefully mean has been serviced regularly. If its nice like you say then has more then likely been looked after. Head over to the VP thread and check out the 'faults/problems' sticky thread. That might give you an idea of a few of the common probs with them to have a quick check for when you go have a look. Good luck with it mate Be sure to post up pics if you bring it home! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca86 View Post
    Logbooks should hopefully mean has been serviced regularly. If its nice like you say then has more then likely been looked after. Head over to the VP thread and check out the 'faults/problems' sticky thread. That might give you an idea of a few of the common probs with them to have a quick check for when you go have a look. Good luck with it mate Be sure to post up pics if you bring it home! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca86 View Post
    Hmmmm, it would a be a poor condition clubby for 10K. VT 5L SS's are between 8-11K Most VT clubbys i seen were 13-14K+
    depends ive seen countless vtss 5l for 7-8k with low kays a lot of people dump them for ls1/ls2 . a guy that lives around me was selling his vt1 gts 215i for 12k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vt_vic View Post
    depends ive seen countless vtss 5l for 7-8k with low kays a lot of people dump them for ls1/ls2 . a guy that lives around me was selling his vt1 gts 215i for 12k
    I Picked my Senator Stroker up for $13k 6 mnths ago, My car is not in bad condition...lol....
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    I just picked up my VXII R8 on Tuesday. Full comp insurance through AAMI was $200 a year more than if I went the VXII SS. Was the first thing I checked before purchasing the car (was originally looking at the SS). Just car was closer to $400 more per year for the Clubby.

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    Alright guys, thanks for all your help.

    I ended up going today and buying the VT Calais 5L

    Thought it was a good deal.. Full service history and only on 150 000km's, from 1 previous owner who is around 45 years old.
    I'll make up a thread when I get it on Monday and start writing down what I'll be doing to it (Thinking exhaust, CAM, Intake? etc)

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