Mini Spool Yay or Nay?
Hey guys
Would a mini spool be worth the money for my V6 executive???
Thnx
Well its illegal to have one in on the road so nooooo.
Also unless your drag racing it does sfa and makes it dangerous to drive in the wet!
ps. most mods are illegal without an engineers cert or epa testing, big deal.
i have one to go in my daily driven vs ute with a v6 and manual. it cant be that bad.
Originally Posted by QuickVRII95
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Had one before and would never again in a daily driver. makes the car a pig to drive at low speeds and carparks are ridiculous. And you WILL snap axles.
Get a decent LSD.
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Get an LSD else you HAVE to do a burnout to make a U-turn.
Rick =]
1. Low speed driving isnt bad (e.g 10-15km+), get some sticky tyres and light pressure on the throttle and you wont even hear it in most cases
2. There is not garentee you will or wont snap axlesI have drove mine daily for almost 2 years, original axles that came with the car from the factory. No broken axles
28 spline axles are actually pretty strong
LOL doesn't matter if you have a single, lsd or a spool.... if you drive like an idiot you will kill yourself in the wet (or dry)
I know people wont believe this but I can actually go quicker around corners in the wet as apposed to the single I used to have
Alot of people seem to have this idea that in the wet, if one slips the other one will then its all over and in my experience it's incorrect, It's pretty much its the opposite, if one slips its because the other wheel has more grip and is keeping you on the road perfectly fine
Yours Sincerely
Owner of a daily driven spooled car
So Wet For You!
I lol'd hard........
Probably best not to listen to anyone who hasn't actually driven with a spool before....
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Youre kidding right, the stickier the tyres the worse it is.1. Low speed driving isnt bad (e.g 10-15km+), get some sticky tyres and light pressure on the throttle and you wont even hear it in most cases
You were lucky, or didnt have enough power lol2. There is not garentee you will or wont snap axles
How can you have more grip with a spool? Without one, both tyres have solid contact with the road on cornering. With one, one tyre is constantly losing traction. The only advantage of a spool in the wet is that the car is a lot more predictable.LOL doesn't matter if you have a single, lsd or a spool.... if you drive like an idiot you will kill yourself in the wet (or dry)
I know people wont believe this but I can actually go quicker around corners in the wet as apposed to the single I used to have
Alot of people seem to have this idea that in the wet, if one slips the other one will then its all over and in my experience it's incorrect, It's pretty much its the opposite, if one slips its because the other wheel has more grip and is keeping you on the road perfectly fine
Yours Sincerely
Owner of a daily driven spooled car
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Why do you think minispools are illegal? They decrease the ability of the vehicle the hold traction on cornering (which is why most people get them). This in turn would make the vehicle more dangerous in the wet than a vehicle with a normal diff. This doesnt mean youre guaranteed to crash it just means its not as safe as a normal diff for general driving purposes.
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So Wet For You!
I know exactly why they are illegal. I have NFI what your post is on about tho. They are not dangerous in the wet. Theres only one type of person who would kill themselves in the wet with a spool, and chances are they killed themselves when they had their open wheeler and never got a chance to get the spool.
This just in, something thats predicable is unsafe......haha. Please keep replying, i need a new sig
Another spool thread, another bunch of know it alls who have never even driven with one. The op can take the advice of whoeever he wants, but i bet he'll take advice from the few who dail drive spools, over the 'my cousins brothers uncle next door neighbour had one' guys....
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My posts not hard to comprehend at all so the problems obvious here.
Oh and Ive owned a car with a spool.
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So Wet For You!
I've owned a car that had a smelly tree around the mirror. Whats your point.
I said people who daily drive them, and know how they react 12 months of the year.....anyone who says they are more dangerous in the wet are in the category of those who HAVN'T driven them, otherwise you'd state the facts....
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French Com
Had a minispool in my old vn turbo wagon daily driver and have one now in my vt v6 manual daily driver. I would never go open wheeler again. It is a lot more predictable in the wet or the dry as u know its always gonna spin both wheels in case of loss of traction. And let's face it if u do do burnouts (on private property of course) it is a lot more fun than an open wheeler. If u have the money to spend on a good tight LSD like i have in my SS they will be good for quite a while before it opens up, but otherwise get a minispool. But just be careful around the police when your turning and stuff coz u will get a yellow for it. In saying that but I have (touch wood) never had a yellow from it and I don't think many cops wouldn't know what they are.
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Couldnt have said it better myself.
No issues with mine,even the missus can drive it no worries lol.The consistancy is what I like about a spool.
Some of you guys need to harden up a little.
Hand over the dog bikkies
Before I lowered the car my LSD was starting to single and there's nothing as scary as being sideways in the rain and have it suddenly snap to one then snap double again throwing you in the opposite direction. If it wasn't illegal and I had the money for tyres I would be putting a mini spool in the VR.
Rick =]
Exactly what happens on every spool thread, people who have never driven a car with one or havent driven one enough to get used to it are always the one's saying its unsafe..
Pretty weird how all us people that drive them daily will sit here and tell people they are perfectly fine aslong as you have a brain in your head
But we must be lieing? Why would we tell the truth? loooool
I can say with confidence that softer tyre's makes them easier to drive.... I have had atleast 5-10 different sets of tyres and the current one's are the stickiest i have ever ran, and guess what? on most turns it doesnt skip
I dont think it comes down to luck and most cases doesn't come down to power... Alot of quick cars running on stock 28 spline axles, its usually the way people drive them OR sudden shock that snaps them...You were lucky, or didnt have enough power lol
Same here, my mum drives my car all the time haha and she has no problem with it :P
Hand over the dog bikkies
Your mum drives a car with a spool? She must be an old school hoon then. Only hoons need spools.
Rick =]
hahahaha she's too responsable for that, she barely ever goes over 2500rpm :P
Btw i know what you mean about the lsd (well sort of) my single was stuffed and locked up 2 randomly mid corner (was driving like a granny because it was wet) sent me sliding across 3 lanes, caught me off gaurd thats for sure..... So i got rid of the single
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Ah this old chestnut...
1. They are illegal, end of topic if you're planning on driving it on the roads.
2. See #1.
In terms of handling performance, depends on the person... some people like Stealthy will swear black and blue that they are great and the car drives better, etc.
Others hate it, you have to pay more attention in the wet otherwise if can cause you grief. If one wheel loses traction, both wheels have lost traction and then all you've got left is talent. With a decent LSD they you doing notice a difference driving if over a single spinner until it comes time to give it the beans, at which point you'll be concentrating more anyway.
I don't see a point to them for road cars, no benefits, illegal and make life a little bit harder over an LSD or single spinner.
I've only ever driven a mini spool a handful of times and it was in my mates car so I can't speak that much from direct experience. But I felt that the car was harder to turn and I almost lost it in the wet around a slow corner simply by looking at the accelerator.
You can get used to it and as the pro-minispool posters have said it's perfectly drivable as a daily once you get the hang of it. But it's more likely to catch you out that a LSD or single spinner when you get cocky and THINK you've got the hang of it.
Oh yeah, did I mention it's illegal?
Your freedom ends where mine begins
The simpler solution being... drum roll please... not going around sideways in the wet.
Oh sorry, just noticed... V6 with a chip and 'cop diff'... carry on...
Issue solved... lol
Yep.
Nah in all seriousness when a daily is used in events all year round a LSD eventually starts to become loose and can actually put you into a wall or something at a show ect,I have done it.Not in any way,shape or form was it installed(spool) to take the easy way out to have some fun illegally.All is done at the track.Enterd in Gazzanats Adelaide for the 6th time,first with the VX.Cant stand twats that do this crap on the road its embarrasing and every winter its the same sad picture of idiots drifting every corner.
Over 10 years or so I killed 3 LSD's and recently in my VH borgwarner rear with over 100lb spring rate in it decided to go after,well no where near enough abuse to have even hurt the standard tailshaft lol.I tell ya its not cheap unless you can spin the spanners correctly.
To the OP,if your car is only going to see street duties then the chances are that a good rebuilt item(LSD) will give a fair amount of trouble free twinning for a longtime,even for the next owner more than likely.Keep the oil changes up(as it wears get rid of clutch material) and use the Ford friction modifyer as its of better quallity and will not harm it in any way.Use correct ratio only,dont over do it as more is worse for it.A good diff tech will know this anyhow.
Funny post above^^^^lol.
Last edited by karlos; 13-08-2010 at 11:17 AM.
Hand over the dog bikkies
I can't help it spinning in the rain. Even in the dry I have traction issues.... I think I might need to go back to cops spec tyres.. or Mashimoto ZX's.
Your freedom ends where mine begins
Bahahahaha!! Yeah, probably a good time to learn to drive then isn't it!
Seriously, it's not that difficult to drive in the wet in most car's unless they are high torque monsters with either a high stall or a button clutch.
Perhaps you should invest in an advanced driving course or something.
lol at the mashimoto zx tyres.
that will certainly get more grip.
captain halfajob
where do i get me some "cop spec" tyres? will it make my chop chip go fully harder?
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