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    Hey guys
    Just after some help here with my wagon wanna lower it.
    I wanna lower all four getting the back wheels to tuck.
    so here are the questions
    1. how low should I go i want to get the rear to tuck but nothing extreme
    2. I want to lower it but not so low I have to replace shock absorbers/ struts and have to roll the guards
    3. please help me with what springs and what size I should go on the front and the Rear.

    At the current moment from the top of the wheel to the top of the lip of the guard on the rear it is 1inch and on the front it is 2inch

    I was thinking about 1inch lower on the front and about 1 1/2 inch on the rear If I do this will I need to get new struts ect as I dont wanna do that

    Im a noob at this stuff lol
    help is much appreciated oh and yes I will be getting a 4 point camber kit
    here is a Attached picture of my car if it helps sorry for the darkness
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    I'd say if you want it to tuck at the rear you will need ultra lows, which means shortened shocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wootown View Post
    Hey guys
    Just after some help here with my wagon wanna lover it as I have VE wheels on it and it sits high and just wanna make it look good.
    I wanna lower all four getting the back wheels to tuck.
    so here are the questions
    1. how low should I go i want to get the rear to tuck but nothing extreme
    2. I want to lower it but not so low I have to replace shock absorbers/ struts and have to roll the guards
    3. please help me with what springs and what size I should go on the front and the Rear.

    At the current moment from the top of the wheel to the top of the lip of the guard on the rear it is 1inch and on the front it is 2inch

    Im a noob at this stuff lol
    help is much appreciated oh and yes I will be getting a 4 point camber kit
    here is a Attached picture of my car if it helps sorry for the darkness
    I am also interested in this????
    What size are them ve wheels??

    I have 18 inch wheels the rear of my car looks lower....
    Also my drivers side front seems to \\\\\\\\\sit 3/4 of inch lower than the passenger side??
    So are the drivers spings just compressed over time??
    No chance the differance will be the shocks??
    Will new springs make my front of car look even???
    I have new springs they say it will drop the front aprox 30mm lower???
    What do you think it will drop 30mm from drivers side or passengers side???????????????

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    yer my wheels are 18inch

    basssicly just wanna know what size springs to get without modding anything else

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11gothevt11 View Post
    I am also interested in this????
    What size are them ve wheels??

    I have 18 inch wheels the rear of my car looks lower....
    Also my drivers side front seems to \\\\\\\\\sit 3/4 of inch lower than the passenger side??
    So are the drivers spings just compressed over time??
    No chance the differance will be the shocks??
    Will new springs make my front of car look even???
    I have new springs they say it will drop the front aprox 30mm lower???
    What do you think it will drop 30mm from drivers side or passengers side???????????????
    Your suspension is probable sagged, ie the weight on the spring over time has caused it to weaken and drop a little bit..

    You should both use the search function, questions like these have been asking alot of times, and you will find the answers in older threads, you just have to do a bit of research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy711 View Post
    My mum dropped me off at work one day and she was doing 90 in a 60 zone. When I pointed this out to her she said 'shut up, if you don't like my driving you can get out and walk'.

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    yer have tried to search mate but just not sure if there is any difference with my wheels cause they arnt stock on the car and all that
    im a bit of a newbie lol sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by wootown View Post
    yer have tried to search mate but just not sure if there is any difference with my wheels cause they arnt stock on the car and all that
    im a bit of a newbie lol sorry
    Yeh theres heaps of old treads on this....When searching keep it simple.....
    I found a few treads lowering the rear end..people say you need to change rear shocks....But for fronts you don't need to change shocks...but will make a better ride

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    I just wanna get just the springs and the camber kit if its possible ay
    dont wanna go overboard with money and all that

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    Quote Originally Posted by wootown View Post
    I just wanna get just the springs and the camber kit if its possible ay
    dont wanna go overboard with money and all that
    depends how low your going????
    If its 50/60 mm....I have read up saying the rear springs could pop out when going over a pot hole ect ect....
    Well in my wagon...the rear gards sit about half inch above the tyres,... so i'm gonna leave the rear just lower the front 30mm..using standerd shocks...as heaps of people have done this.....

    But with rears i wouldn't risk it mate

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    1. It's a VT so you're going to want a camber kit no matter how low you decided to go
    2. You don't need to get shortened shocks even if you go SSSL which is really low. You're ride will be average and your shocks will wear out quicker, but your spring will NOT fall out. You'd have to get air before they where even close to falling out.
    3. You may or may not need to roll guards, it depends on the rim width and offset. Lower it, see if they rub, put the standard springs back in till you can get the guard rolled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesterarts View Post
    1. It's a VT so you're going to want a camber kit no matter how low you decided to go
    2. You don't need to get shortened shocks even if you go SSSL which is really low. You're ride will be average and your shocks will wear out quicker, but your spring will NOT fall out. You'd have to get air before they where even close to falling out.
    3. You may or may not need to roll guards, it depends on the rim width and offset. Lower it, see if they rub, put the standard springs back in till you can get the guard rolled.
    By chance Do you know how low you can legally lower a vt???
    Also my rear tyres sit on a angle
    By getting a camber kit fitted and making them straight will the car ...Sit up more??? meaning the gap between rear gards and tyres will be more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesterarts View Post
    1. It's a VT so you're going to want a camber kit no matter how low you decided to go
    2. You don't need to get shortened shocks even if you go SSSL which is really low. You're ride will be average and your shocks will wear out quicker, but your spring will NOT fall out. You'd have to get air before they where even close to falling out.
    3. You may or may not need to roll guards, it depends on the rim width and offset. Lower it, see if they rub, put the standard springs back in till you can get the guard rolled.
    ok thanks alot mate
    I wont have to get shorten struts will I
    Now just to try find a good spring size any recommendations

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    @ 11gotthevt11,

    Lowering laws are still different from state to state so I can't answer that.

    I'm pretty sure that 100mm clearance and 2/3 travel retained are requirements in VIC.
    The design of the VT IRS is shocking and unfortunately there is nothing that will completely cure their camber issues. A camber kit will help, but if you've lowered you will always have negative camber issues. A more extreme solution is to put a whole VX SII IRS backend in as they made it les on an issue in the VX SII and onwards, but that's going to be costly and there will still be some camber.

    @wootown,
    Yeah, you won't NEED shortened shocks. Just your current ones will wear quicker because they will be working outside their design and probably in the next year or so you will need to replace them, at which point you'd go shortened shocks. You will notice a big improvement in ride quality when you get the shortened ones in too.
    Same deal with struts, unless you get air they are not going to unseat themselves and they will be captured anyway unless you go custom compressed springs where your car is sitting 5cm off the ground or something.
    Recommendations, well, that's personal preference. I probably wouldn't go any lower than say KINGS SSL in the rear and SL or SSL in the front. I had SSSL rear and SL front in a sedan and that was great if it was only me in the car... but with passengers in the back the car was hitting bumpstops alot and scrapping over pretty much everything.
    Plus, if you want to stay completely legal, you'll need to do some research as what spring will allow you to abide by your states regulations.
    Good luck.

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    KHFL - 47SL (super fronts)
    KHRL -46HD (wagon ultra rears)

    Get you about 120mm clearance if you dont have any exhaust cats sticking lower. I have HSV 18's on my wagon with super low fronts and rears and Im not really satisfied with the height of the rear, it sits a little higher than the front.... will be changing to ultra rears!

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    He dont have money if you read the topic, just wants cheapest lowered springs without changing shocks or rolling gaurds

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightRIDA View Post
    Why dont you just get Air bagz?
    If you have money to spare, that is!
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    My bad,I just read the title,and thought id give some good advice.
    lol no problem mate
    rather get springs haha

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    If you still want to be able to go up driveways go with super lows, then if you still want to go lower just sell ur supers and go with ultra lows.

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    yer defiantly still want to be able to go up drive ways and over speed humps with ease

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    just cut the springs bro!!!! no dont!!! try and find an fe2 kit on ebay or something, where did you get those VE 18's i love the look of them.....how much?? you would have had what 205/65 R15's what size now
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    Quote Originally Posted by schrinky View Post
    just cut the springs bro!!!! no dont!!! try and find an fe2 kit on ebay or something, where did you get those VE 18's i love the look of them.....how much?? you would have had what 205/65 R15's what size now
    No cutting lol
    My dad owns a VE and bought Fully sick rims lol so he said I could have his VE stocky s haha and sorry are you talking about tyre size
    yer might have a look into the fe2 kit
    probally gunna be an expensive exercise now as im only a P plater so insurance will go thought the roof haha

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    ahhh the joys of standard fe2...but if you get fe2 maybe you can claim it is a factory kit and thats how it came???!!!! i know thats what i said about my intake....oh thats how it came!!
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    hey im new to the forum,

    i have a VT and i want to get it lowered.. currently has the FE2 and i want it a little lower than that.. any recomendations?
    thanks.. i will be getting the 4 pt camber and new shocks etc.

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