FE2 suspension

[chevy_big_block_bro]

I have a VT exec with a full SS body kit w/wheels.
Id like to get FE2 suspension but not sure where to start.
does VY FE2 fit a VT and what comes with FE2.
whats the going price at the wreckers

[Binary]

I have a VT exec with a full SS body kit w/wheels.
Id like to get FE2 suspension but not sure where to start.
does VY FE2 fit a VT and what comes with FE2.
whats the going price at the wreckers

Yes, VY FE2 will fit a VT fine.
Basically you need springs, dampers, and stab. bars for full FE2 afaik, although the front stab bar is a bit painful to change, so I didn't bother changing it on mine.

FE2 springs from a holden dealer aren't overly expensive, so it may be worth buying new (in the vacinity of $150 from memory). I've seen some wreckers selling GM 'surplus' stock, including FE2 dampers front and rear for under $100 from memory. Otherwise you can often find them on ebay, although its hard to gauge how much wear they have copped.

Dunno if that helps.
Liam.

[chevy_big_block_bro]

is that $150 for a full set or each spring. and what are dampers

[RAVENVT]

dAMPERS ARE A LESS COMMON NAME FOR SHOCKS

[chevy_big_block_bro]

guy at the holden performance place siad he'll do
Front Springs $72.00
Rear Springs $161.00
Fitting $114.00
Total $377

He also said he would do any height king springs for $450 fitted

What way should i go?????

[montey56]

hey,
where abouts are you. i live near maquarie uni in sydney and can get you the suspension plus instal it for you for $330, all new gear from holden. i work for ford, i know i like holden but i got a job at ford... lol.
just one option.
Also was it $450 for just the springs or the shocks aswell with the kings?

[chevy_big_block_bro]

just springs, what can u get the springs for if u post them up here so i can get fitted as im in port macquarie and rarely head down to sydney.

after all that id say ill go with the king lows (super lows are too low for me)

[montey56]

i can get u fe2's for bout $200 plus postage of say $35.

[Binary]

I bought FE2 springs from my local holden dealer last year, cost me $165 (just checked my receipt) for the whole set. I got a small trade discount, but I doubt it would have been much. Ring your local dealer and ask for a price maybe... 92048199 FR and 92048210 RR I think, or just ask for FE2 springs to suit VT.

[vtcommodo3800]

How far will fe2 springs lower the car and do you need to change shocks and add a camber kit

[Binary]

I went from Standard to FE2 height, and while the difference is noticeable, its not drastic, probably a little too high for aesthetics - it doesnt look as low as an SS without the SS skirting.

Changing the shocks / struts is optional, although your stockies are likely to age a little faster if not running at the designed height. FE2 isn't too low so they should be okay - but go much lower and I'd suggest you change them. Just be aware that your existing shocks will not last as long and be prepared to buy new ones in the future. If you still have the original shocks from stock, you should probably change them anyway :P

I'm sure others will tell you different, but my Bridgstone B530s are holding up just fine without a camber kit, although I've heard its highly recommended if you go much lower than FE2.

[vtcommodo3800]

hey i was told by my holden dealer that it will lower the car 2" and a camber kit is not needed. Can you show us some pics. Thanks

[Optimus_Prime]

A camber kit isnt needed for fe2, with S & SS it comes standard with no camber kit... although there is a bit of camber there anyways - so if you really wanted the rears straight as possible it wouldnt hurt. Though like Binary, my Bridgstone B530s also held up perfectly fine with no camber kit on fe2.

These pics are of mine with fe2 as standard, then with superlows (plus a 4 point rear camber kit) a day after installed so it will settle a touch lower after a while.

fe2 definately looks better than standard height, but superlow looks even better

[Binary]

hey i was told by my holden dealer that it will lower the car 2" and a camber kit is not needed. Can you show us some pics. Thanks

I would say 2" is very optimistic, I would think more like 1"-1.5". As you can see from optimus' post, FE2 isnt very low - and superlows look much better. But if you dont want to bother with a camber kit, FE2 might have to do. My car is still at FE2 height and I find it fine (I can post pics if you want), and it handles much better (I have HSV dampers too), but it would definately look better sitting a little lower.

[vtcommodo3800]

Can you measure from the ground to the wheel arch for me please so i can compare it to standard. and what size wheels do you have. Thanks alot.

[pimpin_calais]

just a quick question guys would fe2's off a vx fit a vs??

[Stretcher Bearer]

The lowering is about a inch. Be awares that there are things like link rods in a VT that are softer metal than VX onwards. They have a habit of bending, but most don't even know it. FE2 lowered height is dependent on the tyre and wheel combination larger wheels/tires brings things closer to the arch and gives the impression of lowering. Overdoing looks crap (though many disagree I know). don't buy the components second hand if acan oafford it, get them new. you dunno how the rpevious owner treated them.

[Binary]

Can you measure from the ground to the wheel arch for me please so i can compare it to standard. and what size wheels do you have. Thanks alot.

Sorry for delay, will do tomorrow.

just a quick question guys would fe2's off a vx fit a vs??

Afaik, the front struts/springs will fit in a VS fine. Not sure about the rear - if you have a live rear axle, then definately not, if you have IRS i'm not sure.

[vtcommodo3800]

Thanks also VX FE2's will fit a VT fine won't it. Because I just brought FE2's off a mate with a VX SS. They were never used.

[Dayvo]

the lower you go ,the worse the negative camber gets . i have fe2 suspension in my VX series 1 .The rear set of tyres have done 40,000 kays and they are just starting to wear on the inside . I usually make a quick trip down to my local tyre fitter and get them to rip the tyres off the rims ,turn them around and re fit them . or you can rotate the front to the rear and the rear to the front . ( that reminds me , must buy a camber kit )
Also the VT uses the same running gear as the vx

[Binary]

Can you measure from the ground to the wheel arch for me please so i can compare it to standard. and what size wheels do you have. Thanks alot.

Sorry for the late reply, I totally forgot.
If its any good to you now, mine is about 67.5cm (fr) and 68.5cm (rr) from highest point in arch to the ground, but this will vary from spring to spring (the tolerance on spring height is pretty big). Mine is a V6 also, so a V8 might sit lower in the front. Here are some pics of before and after if you're interested.

Before


After


The wheels are 17" with 235/45/17s fitted.

[HoZy]

ehhh ebay king springs $220 average price, fit yourself, not hard

[SUPERV6]

FE2 you can get away without a camber/toe kit...almost. I still used to get a bit of inside tyre wear before I had the camber/toe kit installed. After it was fitted the tyres stood up nice and straight with very little neg camber. Often everyone blames the camber for killing the tyres when its really the toe that is doing the damage to your rubber. The negative camber just means the wear caused by the toe is concentrated to the inside of the tyre and unless you monitor the wear pattern and swap/rotate your tyres you end up with only 3/4 the full life out of your rear rubber. I would recommend a suspension fitter to do the camber/toe kit installation as it will need a 4 wheel alignment straight afterwards too.

I fitted a full Kings Superlow suspension myself at home (its not that difficult) and this includes the springs, struts and shocks. Of course you will need a 4 wheel alignment after you do a lowering job as the geometry will be all out of whack again. I can tell you that with Superlow in the rear you will use up ALL the available adjustment of a rear camber/toe kit and still need a bit more that just isnt there. What you effectively end up with is back to about the factory FE2 specs with regard to camber and toe. The guys who go to Ultralow will kill the rear tyres quickly and large rim sizes just make this even more pronounced. Another problem is the freeplay required by the drive axles...there must be at least 1-1.5mm end float or you will knock out the bearings in your diff!!! So if you try to stand the tyres up too straight in your efforts to remove neg camber you can cause diff problems.

Attached is my car in stages from original FE2 to full Superlow all round.

[chevy_big_block_bro]

go to www.cardomain.com/id/chevy_big_block and check my height out, ill post pics when im on my pc with the pics on it

[vtcommodo3800]

[QUOTE=Binary]Sorry for the late reply, I totally forgot.
If its any good to you now, mine is about 67.5cm (fr) and 68.5cm (rr) from highest point in arch to the ground, but this will vary from spring to spring (the tolerance on spring height is pretty big). Mine is a V6 also, so a V8 might sit lower in the front. Here are some pics of before and after if you're interested.

Hey thanks for that but how much lower did it make then standard because it is sitting higher now then mine standard.