Do NOT get a solid flywheel put in a manual VT

[JoeFish]

That's it, never get one!

Especially if you are after a car that sounds nice and does not sound like something is grinding and rattling inside your engine. The solid flywheel makes a terrible sound and ruins the tone of the exhaust.

Yes you pay less for the solid, so if you're not after a nice sounding car - go for it!

BUT...if you want your car to actually sound nice when going through the gears or driving slowly especially when going uphill, stick with the expensive dual mass flywheel.

The dual mass has a dampener where as the solid does not, which causes the rattle. Unfortunatly I was not told by my mechanic that there would be a rattling noise with the solid so I am stuck with it as it's not worth spending $2200 on another clutch kit unless I'm going to keep the car for another 6 years.

So that is my rant. Not really happy bit I just remind myself that it's just a car, it doesn't distinguish who i am as a person

So I hope this has helped anyone looking at getting a new clutch kit/plate.

Cheers

[TonyJZX]

$2,2k what the hell!

unless it's a 300kW Clubsport R8 why bother

[JoeFish]

well that was the price to get fitted. But I am pretty certain the dual mass kit is around $1,400, give or take $150.

hahah, we are talking about Vt's, not the sexylicious R8's.

[soop]

Fly wheel won't do that unless something is wrong.

Dual mass fly wheels are fairly ordinary to drive with.

[2DIE]

Sounds like a loose bolt or a cracked flex plate, makes a horrid sound at low speeds right?

[6 shooter]

yea it should sound normal you better take it back to the mechanic and let them know maybe he never torqued the bolts properly and its come loose
You dont want to be doing full rpm and the flywheel come flying off then youll be set back more than $2200

[lufkin]

sounds like nothing at all to do with a solid flywheel vs dual mass, just sounds like dodgy installation, take it back

[soop]

Gotta wonder how you stuff it up. Its not complicated!

[social]

Bought it, had it, no problems. The idea of going solid means that you'll only ever need to replace the clutch kit and machine the flywheel rather than replace the dual mass fly and buy the kit. Having the solid flywheel allows for the fact you wont lose as much power through the drive line (pending on what your pushing) as the dual mass provides a slight cushioning effect when engaged. It was put in place from factory to stop the sound of the gearbox as the getrags are alot louder than the t5's (VN VP VR manuals). My gearbox was loud, no problems with it at all. But it does depend on the car it goes into and its thrashed history as more thrashed will be louder than a baby'd gearbox. Although, you wont get the rattle sound above 1500rpm, only in high gears at low km/h.

So basically if you want to get it for these reasons, get it. But be aware it will possibly be loud, so remember the title of this thread is not a guide. its just an opinion.

[graham7773]

I'm with lufkin and soop. Solid flywheel can't make noise unless it is not installed correctly. there is nothing about it to rattle/grind and 2DIE, it does not have a flex plate, only autos do.
A bolt left inside the bell housing would make that type of noise also. Possibly a clutch cover bolt?

[Decicrate]

The dual mass flywheel is there to stop the GETRAG rattling its head off.
If you put a solid flywheel in you WILL hear the gear box rattling, usually at idle with the clutch disengaged is when it is at its worse.
When I did mine, I thought that I had put the flywheel on 180 out or left a few bolts loose. Note, some billet flywheels can be installed 180 out if not careful and a bit of force is used.
With mine I did notice a bit more gear noise when in gear but, I had to really listen for it, at idle it was a shocker!
Trouble with the dual mass is that if you are a bit of a sporty driver you may find you start to destroy them pretty quickly.
Unfortunately a billet is the only way once you start to add HP.

Its unfortunate that people don't get given the full story or don't do any research before making modifications, surely there would have to be a heap of threads on here about billet flywheels.

[soop]

Could be a loose pressure plate. Which would be very poor indeed.

People are getting too soft, "ehhhh it makes some noise, someone get the sand out of my vag"...

(Not having a dig... just sarcasm)

[VT-565]

I put a solid flywheel in my VT V6 and it sounded horrible.
It kept making the noise and one day I power shifted into second and the engine exploded, causing an eathquake in China, killing millions of innocent children.


Really, it was fine. No noisier than the dual mass set up.

[hendo93]

[QUOTE=soop;1717136]
People are getting too soft, "ehhhh it makes some noise, someone get the sand out of my vag"...

i just fell off the couch lol!!

[JoeFish]

wow VT-565 that was a good call.

And I have taken it back to two different mechanics on the sunshine coast.

Ok guys well i really appreciate all your information, so thanks for that. I've had it checked by two different mechanics. First mechanic was the initial installer. They called up the suppliers and asked what's the go and apparently they are 'reknown to make noises'.

The second mechanic I took it to, took the clutch kit out and did their research as well and were told pretty much the same thing, the only way to get rid of the noise is to get a dual mass.

So rather getting a dual mass i got the solid plate shaved back a little. It has quietened down a tiny bit but it will come back i'm certain.
$482 wasted.

any other inputs?

[JoeFish]

and yes you can hear a rattle when ideling with the cluch disengaged, it takes about a minute for the rattle come and it usually only comes when the engine is dead cold.

Cheers

[s_ikari2015]

Holden uses noisy boxes... no matter what flywheel and clutch you have. They're not very bright, and as Top Gear Australia said in their first series, take the engine from the Holden, bolt it up to the gearbox of the Ford and you'd have a perfect car.

[Reaper]

I would suggest if the fly was balanced properly as an assembly with the clutch it would be a lot better.

Reaper

[GTP 85]

Sounds totally normal to me... both gearboxes can be noisey. As said losing the dual mass setup does away with the dampening so noises are inevitable. My mates who have Getrags, they have this really annoying whine constantly.

I have had a few T5 backed cars now and all of them have to some degree had that rattle at idle, and personally i think its the imput shaft only when it's unloaded. You should hear the T5 behind my big cammed v6 at idle, sounds like it's fked!! lol. but runs perfectly fine.

[Jesterarts]

I put an exedy HD Clutch and solid flywheel in my old VX. I don't recall and excessive rattle.

Maybe it's different in each case and depends on how worn and loose your box is.

And yeah I did...

Sent from my HTC Magic

[JoeFish]

THanks for all the heads up guys. Really appreciate it.

Just would like to close this forum stating that this was only my oppinion from what I have experienced.

I am just over it now, not gonna let it get to me. But thanks again for all the help

Cheers,
Joe

[vsspack]

Had a solid put in not long ago, Bit of a rattle at idle and little more jerky on take off but feels way more solid and much more reliable.