Vt Ignition Barrel Quick Question
My Ignition barrel has just gone (key spins loosely and stuck on acc).
I just bought a barrel and key from eBay link below.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Holden-Commod...item588af65a8c
I am planning on using my original key head as it still works but im not sure if i have to get this coded as I read in another thread that I do.
Also if I do have to get it coded do I have to take out the ring around the barrel of the car as well before i take it to a locksmith or do I just take this ebay item and my old key head up.
Planning on fixing this tomorrow also any tips would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Last edited by dope505069; 03-12-2010 at 05:24 PM. Reason: html link
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You won't need to get the key head coded and instead of using the key that came with the barrel you should take the barrel to a locksmith and get them to code your old key to the new barrel. This will save you having to use different keys for the ignition and door looks.
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No worries, thanks for your fast reply.
So do I just take the eBay item and my old key to the locksmith or do i have to pull something off the old ignition in the car and take that to the locksmith also ? Because I have not disassembled the broken ignition off the car yet.
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Yes, just take the barrel (ebay item) and your key to the locksmith. You will have a problem removing your barrel if you can't turn the key to the on position. You might also need to remove the ignition switch to get the broken piece of the shaft from the barrel. If you can't do it, I suggest a mobile locksmith.
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Thanks again. I just saw the piece called the key reader and assumed I would have to take that up 2.
At least I can get the part coded before ripping my ignition apart & by on did you mean acc, reds or fully turned clockwise to start engine or any of the above(mine is currently stuck on accessories).
Also my steering wheel lock is locked in 2 I heard its a pain in the ass in this case 2. Any tips about that part.
Btw thanks man would have been stuffed without you.
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My manual says to put the key in the on position. I have changed the barrel a couple of times but I don't recall having the reds on at the time but this could be because I disconnected the battery before doing it, I don't remember. I'm sure someone will enlighten us about that and the steering lock.
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You should d/c the battery before trying to remove the barrel to save it jamming on crank and frying your starter motor.
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Okay well thanks for your help accentstencil. I have So far pulled out the ignition switch used a screw driver to turn it and left the key reader on the old ignition and key and stuck my finger in the ignition hole lol to hold the steering wheel lock off while i drove it home. My finger is still stinging from holding my finger down on the steering wheel lock. At least its home know that was my main worry it getting ripped off etc.
So tomorrow or most likely Monday depending on business hours I will get the new ignition coded for use with the old key and install them. Wasn't that hard really just have to know what your doing if I had done it before I would have finished it heaps quicker.
I got quoted $35 yesterday arvo to code the ignition and old key from what I have seen on threads on here I could probably get it done for between $20-$25 so I will shop around my local area.
So all up $40 on eBay and free p/h as i picked it up for the ignition and $20-$30 for the recode.
all up $70
Holden's quote $65 for the ignition barrel with no keys.
Holden's Service quote to fit and recode $190 (2 hours labour my ass took me 20 minutes).
& tow from where I was stuck at $150
all up $405
saved $335
I just explained the cost so hopefully ppl that read this thread wont get ripped off by Holden honestly almost anyone can do it.
Last edited by dope505069; 04-12-2010 at 11:22 PM.
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Took you 20 mins to remove the trims, remove the barrel, code the new barrel to the key and refit the barrel then the trims did it?
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If you read the post I said I haven't done it yet I meant 20 mins to take off panels, pull off key reader, take out ignition barrel, put new one in, put key reader back on & put panels on. This would be if i had the ignition recoded to the key already waiting.
No im not a locksmith and no i haven't recoded the ignition and that will be done on Monday its funny you know how to write but don't know how to read wouldn't it be the other way around don't u learn to read first.
If Holden charges you a 2 hr job for that there kidding themselves and ppl like u go to them and get ripped.
And ppl on here have even said locksmiths have done it on here for them in 20-30 mins or so in front of them recoded and everything even on site.
P.S. thanks for your comment.
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Pretty self explanatory to me, I can read and write quite well, enough so to recognise an idiots ramblings when I read them.Holden's Service quote to fit and recode $190 (2 hours labour my ass took me 20 minutes).
No you're not a locksmith and that being so have no idea how long it takes to code a barrel. It's morons like yourself that presume everything takes 5 minutes that shoot their mouths off and usually get shut down hard when presented with facts.
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And you'll find $190 is 1.5hrs labour at most dealerships.
Time needs to be allowed to drill the barrel out if it cant be removed in the usual way.
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Alright Mr. I work for Holden or wish I did are you saying you wouldn't do it the way I have done it and do it via my other alternative Holden?And you'll find $190 is 1.5hrs labour at most dealerships.
Time needs to be allowed to drill the barrel out if it cant be removed in the usual way.
If you would go to Holden now that's self explanatory.
I saved some money thanks to some great ppl on here money talks and bullshit walks.
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(Post #8)So tomorrow or most likely Monday depending on business hours I will get the old key coded to the new ignition and install them.
I hope that was a typo, because I think you should mean "I will get the new ignition switch altered to suit the old key blade". Otherwise you will need two keys, one for ignition, another for door and boot. But then again, you don't sound as though you take kindly to any advice from anybody.
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I simply queried your misleading statement saying Holden wanted to charge 2 hours labour for what you could do in 20 minutes.Originally Posted by dope505069
Why would I go to Holden to do the job for me? Id walk from my bay to parts and get the barrel at cost price and code it myself then R&R myself and would have spent fark all.
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The price I got the barrel off eBay for http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Holden-Commod...item27b4130191 u couldn't get it from Holden at cost price cheaper, I know that for a fact my mate works there and it worked out more expensive. As for doing it yourself ha ha u say u work for Holden service and you still only got it all done $10 cheaper than me wow Holden really looks after there employees.
Also its funny how you jump on a thread when theirs an argument to be made but when someone needs help u do fark all true Holden employee right here.
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Yes it was a typo thanks oldtimer I will change that for future ppl reading the thread will be misleading for others & if you read the thread again you will see I wasn't getting help I was getting criticism & arrogance.So tomorrow or most likely Monday depending on business hours I will get the old key coded to the new ignition and install them.
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I hope that was a typo, because I think you should mean "I will get the new ignition switch altered to suit the old key blade". Otherwise you will need two keys, one for ignition, another for door and boot. But then again, you don't sound as though you take kindly to any advice from anybody.
Last edited by dope505069; 04-12-2010 at 11:30 PM.
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I dont buy ebay crap I buy genuine, if you cant afford decent parts I guess you need a better income.
Ive helped plenty of people, I just like to torment the intellectually challenged like yourself in between helping others.
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wow ill stay outa this one, wanna rebuild ur trans by yourself? everything in cars aint that easy you get quoted a price for a reason
When Holden quote a price they have to stick to it
If the barrel can't be rotated to get the lock off they may have to do more work which gets factored into the quote
They also have to warranty their work
If you add up the time pulling it apart, driving around getting parts and getting rekeyed and refitting I think you will be surprised how long it really took
and you can't really include the towing
Okay I understand Ricey genuine maybe be better and some ppl are on a budget when there car is only worth 4-6 grand if their lucky we dont want to have to throw thousands at Holden if we can do it ourselves with a little help and push from the great ppl on here its great. as for the ignition barrel it snapped after ten years of operation and it was genuine great part as for most of the other Holden parts I agree with you. I am happy for you that you work for Holden you obviously enjoy your work and can get most things cheaper than anyone on here. Also whats with the insults I never insulted you I just was indulging in a technical argument. Does it make you feel tough to come on here and insult ppl.
Jacko 84 Rebuilding my transmission is definitely something i cant do myself and would probably go to a gearbox specialist there is a good one near me obviously if they quote me cheaper than Holden, if they didn't I would go to Holden.
lout I understand towing is not in the quote but it would have been part of my total costs I am a student and saving money means a lot lol. And I wasn't saying that their costs are over the extreme I was just saying why not save some money and do it yourself if you have the opportunity to do so.
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Also its funny how you jump on a thread when theirs an argument to be made but when someone needs help u do fark all true Holden employee right here.
Alright Mr. I work for Holden or wish I did are you saying you wouldn't do it the way I have done it and do it via my other alternative Holden?
No im not a locksmith and no i haven't recoded the ignition and that will be done on Monday its funny you know how to write but don't know how to read wouldn't it be the other way around don't u learn to read first.
No insults huh?
Im happy to help people on here and dont generally enter into arguements unless they:
A: Post misleading information
B: Insult me
You started with the insults so dont cry when they come back at you.
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No insults just facts read them again lol.
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