vt camber time!

[thekid93]

hey, ok so i lowed my vt on ssl all round and camber just ripped out my tyres. well only about an inch of the insides. bullshit!

questions i have.
2 and 4 point? whats the diff?? 4 has more from what i see? any thing else?

pedders have given me the price, 430 ish for 2 point put in and 700 for 4 point? they sound right?

dont really have that much so thinking superpro kit and haveing a crack my self?

installing,
just a matter of dropping the out bush out and puting in the new ones? plus wheel alignment?

just unbolt drop down and put the new ones in?

also does it matter where the bush sits? like how its got the uncentred hole? matter if its at the top or side?

[2DIE]

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[Claudy]

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[showbags]

only use the 2 point kit on vt onwards. using the 4 point kit will destroy your drive shafts.

[thekid93]

only use the 2 point kit on vt onwards. using the 4 point kit will destroy your drive shafts.

care to explain?

i seen some one else say this, but alot more tell me 4 point.

4 point adds to wear on the diff and axels?


on the phone to pedder today, 2 point will fix 70% of the problem and 4 is about 90%???

[graham7773]

VY or VZ rear suspension/diff cradle will solve the problem very well. No more camber problems. Can be found in most Commodore wreckers. Prices vary from around $250ish up to the $500 mark. I have seen them fitted in backyards but will need alignment

[thekid93]

vy vz, dont they need a 2 point kit?

trying fix as much as i can on the cheap with mine. without swaping rear ends

[Clutchy]

only use the 2 point kit on vt onwards. using the 4 point kit will destroy your drive shafts.

Can you tell us why it will do this ? have seen it posted on here all the time but nobody cares to reply why .

[drift-it]

Can you tell us why it will do this ? have seen it posted on here all the time but nobody cares to reply why .

im guessing that the 4 point kit changes the drive angle of the axles/cvs. which would cause excessive wear??

[glenn l]

a 4 point kit give it too much adjustment and it alters the track and wheel base, to get the lowest amount of negative camber it pushes the bottom of the wheels in not the top of the wheels out, causing the drive shafts to push into the diff, binding up the plunging action(in and out movement) of the drive shaft, which will wear the cv joints of the drive shaft, and also because of this it buggers up the bearings in the diff. saying that if its adjusted properly and there is end float in the shafts you wont have a problem.

[Drewie]

Buy tyres that are non directional and non asymetrical and flip them on the rims when the wear starts to appear, that way you will get more from a set. Lowering must be the big issue or some cars must be worse than others, I bought my VX SS Series 1 brand new and it did 45,000km before any sign of inner wear on the rear tyres. It did eventually wear the inner 1" or so
but after that amount of km it didn't bother me. I have done about 15,000km on the new tyres and they seem to be wearing evenly.

[thekid93]

a 4 point kit give it too much adjustment and it alters the track and wheel base, to get the lowest amount of negative camber it pushes the bottom of the wheels in not the top of the wheels out, causing the drive shafts to push into the diff, binding up the plunging action(in and out movement) of the drive shaft, which will wear the cv joints of the drive shaft, and also because of this it buggers up the bearings in the diff. saying that if its adjusted properly and there is end float in the shafts you wont have a problem.

saying that? pretty much, the 4 point has to be done pro to get adjusted right or else it hurt the diff and shit?

or just get the 2 point and forget about 4 point

[glenn l]

any one can fit it, its just up to the aligner to get it right. if you put a 4 point kit in your self you adjust the outer bushes so the arm goes down 6 o clockand the inner bushes up 12 o clock, if you rear end is all good and not bent, which not many are good, this will be as close to where it needs to be, and all you have to do is get an alignment.

[thekid93]

ok, i some what got that.

droping the rear out, is it as simple as.

undoing the 2 bolts for the bushs and lower shock bolt?
will that give me enough room to drop it down to refit the new bushs?

also are you able to say just how much more the 4 point kit helps over the 2 point??

[thekid93]

going for the 4 point kit done by pros

now pedders or fulcrum?
any diff with the two places or brands? i think fulcrum uses superpro and pedders have there own brand?
or just go with who ever cheaper??

any one know any other places on brisbane northside to go?

[db_notso]

mate used fulcrum for all bushes and camber and toe kit fitted to it (red bushes dont remeber the brand used)
they did a good job and when i checked the alignment it was very close too perfect
the fulcrum place was..
46 Webster Road, Stafford QLD 4053
(07) 3356 6733 ‎
"07 3356 6733. Stafford, QLD.

was a while ago now but they did a good job then

[thekid93]

yepp thats the fulcrum i was planing to use, that or pedders geebung.

[glenn l]

normally the superpro is a touch dearer but they are sh1t loads better, the pedders one is a nolathane in a diff packet. the pedders one have the same bush for the inner and outer bushes where the superpro have a different bush for the outer to get more camber out of it.
the hardest part is getting the original bush out of the arm, when its out not to hard.

[thekid93]

yer fulcrum price was about 40-50$ more. was gonna go pedders for the price but if superpro is that much beter then ill pay that bit more.

cheers

[glenn l]

white line also do an extra offset outer bush and i think there cheaper, you can aslo get a kit with a bush remover, my only segustion, stay away from k-mac.

[thekid93]

stay away from kmac?
why thats? i read that alot of ppl use them?

would the superpro kit fix all of the camber problems? or jst a big % of it?

[wrx884]

white line also do an extra offset outer bush and i think there cheaper, you can aslo get a kit with a bush remover, my only segustion, stay away from k-mac.

Interested in y u say 2 stay away from kmac??? as far as i was aware pedders and kmac were the 2 breeds 2 choose from that were similar in quality but not price.

I got the 4 point superpro kit in my VT $155 and they were the next step down thats cheap but half decent. Got a kmac 4 point kit from repco $220 2 go in the VP 2 see wat the difference is but havent intalled it yet. Kmac also came with the bush remover/installer aswell, super pro didnt.

[glenn l]

no matter how tight you do the k-mac up they move, i wont align them.

[rb26dett]

Tyre ware is the trade off to having a very low car.

[thekid93]

tyre wear is fine, its just when it smashs the inner inch off the tyre and the outter looks perfect!