P plate legal mods for vt in VIC

[Hopz]

what performance mods would i be able to do on a vt that is legal in victoria?
and whats the deal with wheel sizes on an exec?
what do you recommend King spring SL or FE2 suspension?
what wheels would you recommed?

[Kieran263]

There are no legal performance mods allowed for P platers in victoria. That being said
check out MACE ENGINEERING, they will have you covered for bolt on mods.
FE2 springs can be found dirt cheap but you would probably want to get some new shocks to suit.
As for rims, its completely a personal choice, but if you go 20's with the FE2 springs
you'll probably scrub a bit.

[Hopz]

would i have to get any engineering done to go over 17's because the car had 15's from the factory and was told you can't go more then 2" bigger, or is that to do with width

[HamaTime™]

FFS...sick of this shit.

VicRoads website says 'No performance enhancing modifications on the engine'

That means, everything, even an aftermarket exhaust is able to be termed 'illegal' for a P Plater.

If you or anyone in the future want to know about this. Call VicRoads, they know the law, they will tell you.

[avanti_rider]

would i have to get any engineering done to go over 17's because the car had 15's from the factory and was told you can't go more then 2" bigger, or is that to do with width

I'm pretty sure thats just a law from the police mate. Not a problem with sizing...

[slowandlow]

the law is, for that make of car, you can go 2 inches larger than the factory released on that entire model..... so, all vt.
i am pretty sure 17" was the largest rim from factory avaliable, so therefore 19" would be the largest size you can have on a vt legally. (unless i am wrong and there where factory 18" rims for vt)

my advice would be to keep away from any obvious mods like exhaust, extreme lowering (keep it legal) or the likes, as that kind of thing attracts the coppers. go for less obvious modifications, and who will know if you dont tell them

[DevilDRake]

the law is, for that make of car, you can go 2 inches larger than the factory released on that entire model..... so, all vt.
i am pretty sure 17" was the largest rim from factory avaliable, so therefore 19" would be the largest size you can have on a vt legally. (unless i am wrong and there where factory 18" rims for vt)

my advice would be to keep away from any obvious mods like exhaust, extreme lowering (keep it legal) or the likes, as that kind of thing attracts the coppers. go for less obvious modifications, and who will know if you dont tell them

Pretty sure that Rim law is gone now, otherwise every person with 20"s or 22"s would be pulled over.

As for the laws, Yep P platers can't have anything to do with the engine, I.E The exhaust, insulators + spacers, extractors.

That being said, I have Pacemaker Extractors with 2 and half inch catback, which is fairly loud but I've never been done for it and I've been pulled over twice.

But, I probably get away with it because i have factory tint and the car is standard height.. Which is obviously going to be changed but not sure.

I've ran around with the exhaust with stockies on the back and 18" SS-SV6 rims on the front with no troubles, even though i had a legitimate excuse, it still gets you pulled over.


What you could get away with and which is bang for your buck would be High ratio Roller rockers, Diff gears + the manifold insulators + spacer.

Just don't make yourself look like every other p plater and you'll be fine, anything you want to do to your car i'll garentee you won't be aloud to have, but you'll do it anyway.

Remember the consequences, usually you only get ####ed up the ass if you're being a tool anyway, which in that case you deserve it.

[slowandlow]

im like, really old, so that law could well be history now. agree with your other modification advice too. dont look like a YAHOO!!!!!, and you should get away with some things.

Pretty sure that Rim law is gone now, otherwise every person with 20"s or 22"s would be pulled over.

As for the laws, Yep P platers can't have anything to do with the engine, I.E The exhaust, insulators + spacers, extractors.

That being said, I have Pacemaker Extractors with 2 and half inch catback, which is fairly loud but I've never been done for it and I've been pulled over twice.

But, I probably get away with it because i have factory tint and the car is standard height.. Which is obviously going to be changed but not sure.

I've ran around with the exhaust with stockies on the back and 18" SS-SV6 rims on the front with no troubles, even though i had a legitimate excuse, it still gets you pulled over.


What you could get away with and which is bang for your buck would be High ratio Roller rockers, Diff gears + the manifold insulators + spacer.

Just don't make yourself look like every other p plater and you'll be fine, anything you want to do to your car i'll garentee you won't be aloud to have, but you'll do it anyway.

Remember the consequences, usually you only get ####ed up the ass if you're being a tool anyway, which in that case you deserve it.

[graham7773]

"what performance mods would i be able to do on a vt that is legal in victoria?" Seeing you mention "legal", I agree with Hama Time. None and for more emphasis, nada, zip, nought, zero, you are not legally entitled to modify your motor including exhaust mods. I am surprised this thread has not been closed for promoting something that is obviously illegal for P Platers. The faster you go, the harder you stop. You only have to watch the news to see what P Platers are doing to themselves in and with cars. Nuff said.

[nathanVY]

"what performance mods would i be able to do on a vt that is legal in victoria?" Seeing you mention "legal", I agree with Hama Time. None and for more emphasis, nada, zip, nought, zero, you are not legally entitled to modify your motor including exhaust mods. I am surprised this thread has not been closed for promoting something that is obviously illegal for P Platers. The faster you go, the harder you stop. You only have to watch the news to see what P Platers are doing to themselves in and with cars. Nuff said.

Mate we all know the news is over publicised BS. Depends how you look at it I guess, anyone could say that all those exhaust changes don't give you any power gains to a n/a 6 (which they don't) they just improve the sound and drive-ability, same with those mace spacers, air intakes, etc ,etc

It doesn't actually do squat in the way of "power increase" - I mean sure we can get excited over tiny tiny differences from standard but at the end of the day the only way to increase power of a v6 engine is forced induction or cams/engine work.

Exhaust, Air Intake, is only delivering better the power the engine already had, might also be worth mentioning that none of these are "Engine Mods" you haven't altered the engine in anyway by changing the exhaust.

[graham7773]

Nathanvs, I did not want to touch on this but, by putting down the news people, you force me to. One of my neices had a very well paying job carting dead bodies to various places. The number of L and P Platers she had to cart was way in excess of the number of older drivers (per capita) and often the P Platers would be in more than one piece (heads or limbs torn off) or burned so badly they would fall apart when they were handled. These are the bits of news you never see on tv. BS? No mate, they are not allowed to report fully on news items like that.

[soop]

In addition to advanced driver courses, new drivers should be made to sit through graphic video of what happens when you're a dick.

But that a side.
The wheel size laws still exists they've changed it though.
The over all tyre ratio cannot change more then 20% (IIRC, I could very well be wrong). So you know those funny numbers on the side? (205/65/r15) Well you basically can't go past 245/40/R18.

I'm not even sure if the maths is correct. But that's not the point .

On the point of engine mods not making the car faster. I don't think that's what people are worried about. Its the dick head mentality that it seems to instil in people once they do them. Cars loud, so they drive like Fangio.

[nathanVY]

Nathanvs, I did not want to touch on this but, by putting down the news people, you force me to. One of my neices had a very well paying job carting dead bodies to various places. The number of L and P Platers she had to cart was way in excess of the number of older drivers (per capita) and often the P Platers would be in more than one piece (heads or limbs torn off) or burned so badly they would fall apart when they were handled. These are the bits of news you never see on tv. BS? No mate, they are not allowed to report fully on news items like that.

No offense meant mate, my point still stands but there are definitely other views to the argument. Shows like TT and ACA can't be trusted, the spin they put on somethings can be completely opposite to what it is, the whole country is manhunting P platers now because of them - but you are right there are that many ########s that something needed to be done - but that wasn't it. Glad I didn't have her job lol.

[Hopz]

In addition to advanced driver courses, new drivers should be made to sit through graphic video of what happens when you're a dick.

But that a side.
The wheel size laws still exists they've changed it though.
The over all tyre ratio cannot change more then 20% (IIRC, I could very well be wrong). So you know those funny numbers on the side? (205/65/r15) Well you basically can't go past 245/40/R18.

I'm not even sure if the maths is correct. But that's not the point .

On the point of engine mods not making the car faster. I don't think that's what people are worried about. Its the dick head mentality that it seems to instil in people once they do them. Cars loud, so they drive like Fangio.

Thanks mate who do tou think i should contact to verify that? vic roads?

[ciddyau]

fucccck my brother gave me my car with pacemakers and a 2.5 catback lol and i go for my licence in 23 days

[Hopz]

that sucks ass mate

[Trayner]

fucccck my brother gave me my car with pacemakers and a 2.5 catback lol and i go for my licence in 23 days

you will be fine mate, every P plater in a commodore has an exhaust .

[fuzzy2308]

#### my brother gave me my car with pacemakers and a 2.5 catback lol and i go for my licence in 23 days

Dont worry about it aslong as you have a zorst (thats not stupid loud) you wont get caught for it.

[soop]

Yeah, just because its illegal doesn't mean you'll get pinged.

[knk]

worth mentioning that if your one of the few still under the old laws(3 years on green) I don't think the modifications rules apply

[justbad4you]

Could not have said it better myself graham.

"what performance mods would i be able to do on a vt that is legal in victoria?" seeing you mention "legal", i agree with hama time. None and for more emphasis, nada, zip, nought, zero, you are not legally entitled to modify your motor including exhaust mods. I am surprised this thread has not been closed for promoting something that is obviously illegal for p platers. The faster you go, the harder you stop. You only have to watch the news to see what p platers are doing to themselves in and with cars. Nuff said.

then again i aint the best speller lol so i couldnt have typed it myself either lol...good on ya gray

[HamaTime™]

This thread is so full of fail.

I will say again.

You modify your car to 'enhance' it's performance, it's illegal for a P Plater. Whether you will get caught for it or not is a different story.

Australia is on a P Plater manhunt, thanks to an over exaggerated number of P Platers and young drivers in modified and unmodified cars killing themselves and others. They are not the majority, they are the minority. But the news gets onto the story and blows it out of proportion and fuels the fire. Society is so gullible as a whole that they all believe to the finest detail of what bullshit most of the Current Affairs shows put out. It is scapegoating and over exaggerating a problem which does exist but nowhere near to the extent which most people believe.
The news would have you believe that any young male in a car is a threat, anyone in a modified street car is a threat. Yes they are, so are old grannies, so are international drivers, so are drunks, so are druggies. Everyone on the road is a threat, didn't anyone's driving instructor teach them not to trust anyone on the road??? Graham, you are right, there are alot of young drivers killing themselves, but they are not the majority. Victoria loses about 300 lives in road related accidents per year, go and see how many of those are actually young males in hotted up cars (or non hotted up cars).

The news is an opinion, a journalist is a person like you and I, who hears a few people's facts and opinions and writes a story. They are not 100% correct, they are not 100% unbiased.

[Hopz]

Dude im not wanting to start a fight on here just a question that was asked which should of been rephrased my bad lol

[nathanVY]

Dude im not wanting to start a fight on here just a question that was asked which should of been rephrased my bad lol

Regularly discussed topic lol.

[ciddyau]

yeahh Its not a loud discusting ratty tone, its nice and tuned I love it
at idle its just a tiger purring