Is it possible to install a turbo inside an already supercharged engine?

[blacknight]

I tired searching in the site but most ppl are comparing these two systems. I was just wondering if it possible to install a turbo in an VX V6 supercharged engine. My apologises if this is a "too much power" nonsensical question...

[soop]

Anything is possible.
There is no physical reason why you can't.

Just gotta ask yourself why?

[TonyJZX]

the only turbo super motor recently is that VW Golf thing

which they aren't making any more

it just doesn't work well

[Kieran263]

That would look sweet, bit of a "mine's bigger than yours" mentality about it though.

[delcowizzid]

theres a few bild threads on here of L67 with giant turbo on the side just for good measure

[lein]

I remember reading about a Toyota Corolla that was Super & Turbo charged years ago. The way it was configured from memory was it ran off the supercharger until the turbo boost was greater and via a valve it took over boosting the engine with the supercharger boost being vented from memory... Or something along those lines.

I have seen a Tractor used in tractor-pulls having two turbo's on a bank of a V12 feeding into a third to make it boost higher then feeding into the engine.

So anything is possible so long as your pockets are deep enough.

[soop]

Its technically difficult to achieve.

The standard supercharger would end up being a restriction.

[delcowizzid]

there is nothing difficult about it you just blow into the charger inlet hook the wastegate up as per normal into inlet manifold after charger and set desired boost .would need the fit or mace air to air intercooler plate and front mount to keep heat down but it is very simple to acheive

[soop]

how much boost can you run with a big turbo before the supercharger starts restricting it?

[delcowizzid]

as much as you want to but pump 5psi from the turbo into the l67 with 7psi pulley and it instantly compounds boost to high figures takes very little boost into the M90 to make 15psi on the outlet side of the blower and is way more efficient than makeing the M90 make 15psi by itself

[soop]

Oh yeah totally agreed.
One thing I've always been led to believe is, that if you force 2 PSI into a supercharger which is compressing the air at 5psi, you're effectively adding 10psi over atmospheric pressure.

BUT, that said there will always come a point where the turbo has the ability to flow more air then the supercharger, depending on the size of the turbo.
So isn't it a wiser idea to run a smaller turbo to suit the bottom end, and a bigger frame supercharger so as to not have the turbo be restricted by the supercharger vein?

[delcowizzid]

you need to feed the bigger turbo into a smaller charger or if compound turboing you blow a bigger turbo into a smaller turbo to get the compound effect.l67 has plenty down low so you fit a big turbo to take care of filling the M90 for topend where the M90 lacks.or just rip the whole lot of and fit a turbo and be done with it :P

[soop]

I agree with ripping the charger off competely .

I still maintain the charger will end up being a restriction at high RPM.

[delcowizzid]

without a restriction there is no compounding boost and if you go the opposite way the turbo becomes a restriction in the exhaust which would be way worse for making power

[Sabbath']

Isnt VN_Luke doing this to his car? Putting a charger on to spool the turbo up faster?

[delcowizzid]

yes sc14 to spool a huge turbo on his RB30

[soop]

How would a centrifugal supercharger effect this method?

[STEALTHY™]

/thread

[soop]

Nice photo.
How is it /thread?

(Haven't seen you around lately)

[STEALTHY™]

Nice photo.
How is it /thread?

(Haven't seen you around lately)

Can it be done? Yes it can. /thread

(I'm trying the 'get a life thing'. Going ok so far. Missing me it seems?)

[soop]

No one said it couldn't be done

(You, get a life?.... nahhh couldn't happen )

[STEALTHY™]

No one said it couldn't be done

(You, get a life?.... nahhh couldn't happen )

He asked is it possible, yeah it is.

(most dont believe it )

[blacknight]

Wow!!! thanks for the responses gentlemen. I will look into these threads and see the mechanics behind the installation.

[justbad4you]

why,$$$ setting the 2 up? better of ripping out the s/c and whacking 2 turbos in( in a real world lol its big $$$$ either way dont dream save ya $$$$ for the day you can buy a big v8)

I tired searching in the site but most ppl are comparing these two systems. I was just wondering if it possible to install a turbo in an VX V6 supercharged engine. My apologises if this is a "too much power" nonsensical question...

[blacknight]

My M5 already has a V10, but its not the daily driver car. I much prefer the Commodore, this thread's origin was because I wondered how was it possible to squeeze more powaaah into the V6.