Bogan question - VT burnouts.

[Mirkz]

Hey guys,

I was just on youtube and ended up checking out various VT SS burnout vids ( think it stemmed from the commodores with chev badges vid posted in another thread).

Anyway, I was wondering how exactly does someone do a burnout in one of these if it's auto?

I think I was told you can't do it in these cars because they have something done with the brake set up which applies more pressure to rear brakes... meaning you can't get on the brake etc.
Or was that just pure bs ?

Not looking to go out and do any, any time soon because I cbf swapping tyres out, but I dont want to have the wrong info.

Cheers

[Claudy]

Bit of brake and foot to the floor haha easier to do in a manual obviously but can be done in autos pretty easily. Once u start turnin the tyres, back off the brake and start doin nuts to get the revs up and away u go haha look up drpaskd on YouTube thats me at powercruise last year

[Mirkz]

So you didn't have to change anything with the brake set up ?
Someone told me you need to install some sort of cut off thing for the rear lines because the brake set up causes brakes to be applied evenly around the car.
I used to do em in my old VP Commodore I had years ago which was auto, so I'm not saying I've never done one or know how to do it, but yeah.. just found it odd to hear the car had some sort of strange set up which prevented it ??

(checking ya vids now :P)

[DLFHUB666]

You dont need a line locker to do burnouts, but they do stop you from warping your rear rotors if you gonna sit on the brake for a while, because you do get presure to the rear brakes when you put your foot on the brake more should go to the front than the rear though.

[HamaTime™]

Not looking to go out and do any, any time soon because I cbf swapping tyres out, but I dont want to have the wrong info.

I find it interesting that people are always like 'I just want to know the theory, not going to go and do it' - of course as a site, burnouts on public roads are not condoned or encouraged...doesn't mean that alot of people don't do them...
The choice is yours to make the informed decision about where to appropriately skid the wheels.

I find that sort of language as being politically correct for the sake of it (forum goody two shoes language) not having a go at ya, just expressing my opinion.

Anyway, onto your question. I'm not sure about the rear brakes setup, but I highly doubt it. In terms of technique, rev it to the stall with the brake on, then floor it and jump back onto the brake and control it using the pedal and brake. (depends how much power you have). A higher stall makes things alot easier.

[2DIE]

Im not sure if the V8 has traction control but turn that off, some models have traction control but don't even have a button for it and it has to be disconnected under the bonnet.

If you aren't familiar with the car it can be a little hard, you just have to feather the brake off as the accelerator goes down more or vice versa till you find the sweet spot. Honestly though I haven't even done a line locker in my VT (V6) but I have no doubt I could if I wanted to.

[Mirkz]

Haha appreciate where you're coming from HamaTime, just couldn't be fked with 'skids are dangerous and illegal, bs bs bs'
was kinda serious though. CBF dropping coin on new rubber yet.

I did try just after I got the car and it seemed just to want to rev high but not actually let go if I got off the brake.
maybe I wasn't doing it right, it's been many years since I owned an auto after all.
Either that or something's too flogged out to do anything... I'm pretty sure it's not putting power to the ground properly anyway, but I could be wrong.
Might be something I should try again at some stage.... on private property away from grannies and children where it can't be heard of seen :P jkz

[2DIE]

Car parks are private property

[DLFHUB666]

Haha appreciate where you're coming from HamaTime, just couldn't be fked with 'skids are dangerous and illegal, bs bs bs'
was kinda serious though. CBF dropping coin on new rubber yet.

I did try just after I got the car and it seemed just to want to rev high but not actually let go if I got off the brake.
maybe I wasn't doing it right, it's been many years since I owned an auto after all.
Either that or something's too flogged out to do anything... I'm pretty sure it's not putting power to the ground properly anyway, but I could be wrong.
Might be something I should try again at some stage.... on private property away from grannies and children where it can't be heard of seen :P jkz

Make sure your not fully standing on the brake you only need light presure.

[Cúl-Báire]

Build a 383ci torque monster, and enjoy burnouts every time you go within 3 meters of the accelerator pedal!.. Thats my plan

[acarmody]

Car parks are private property

True but cops can still book you.

[Kieran263]

Build a 383ci torque monster I like your style.

[Brett_jjj]

Car parks are private property

Not if the public have any type access to the carpark in question,then its classed as a public thoroughfare.It has to be fully enclosed and fenced off from the public to be a private carpark.I know some young guys who work at smash repairs,they were all doing burnouts in the carpark after work etc.Because there was general public access to the carpark,the whole lot of them got fines and booked etc for it.They couldnt believe it,and were spewin about it,they thought the same,they they were on private land,but when the public has access,like at most carparks,its not classed as private at all and the road rules still apply..
This was in NSW too,other states may be different.

[showbags]

private carparks are still classified as public roads. the same as servo's. i got dicked many years ago for dropping skids in my own servo late at night.( lets call it test and tune).

[acarmody]

private carparks are still classified as public roads. the same as servo's. i got dicked many years ago for dropping skids in my own servo late at night.( lets call it test and tune).

Yeah I would be really worried about someone doing skids in a servo.

[thekid93]

if its a manaul, try and clutch kick it? hold brake, rev clutch out and if it starts to die. clutch in and out quick...... lights up for me every time in my 6

[])R@G()N]

Hey guys,

I was just on youtube and ended up checking out various VT SS burnout vids ( think it stemmed from the commodores with chev badges vid posted in another thread).

Anyway, I was wondering how exactly does someone do a burnout in one of these if it's auto?

I think I was told you can't do it in these cars because they have something done with the brake set up which applies more pressure to rear brakes... meaning you can't get on the brake etc.
Or was that just pure bs ?

Not looking to go out and do any, any time soon because I cbf swapping tyres out, but I dont want to have the wrong info.

Cheers

Cheap way is to get a couple small vice greps and put them on the rubber brake line heading to the disks.

Make sure you have some sort of lube under your back tyres before you start one Or you can bend an axle

[Mirkz]

So after being in a controlled environment away from public access etc.. blah blah blah.
I attempted a small skid.

Did what was suggested, foot on brake, tried not to do it too hard, but I had to apply a decent amount of pressure because the car kept moving forward (not sure if this isn't supposed to happen :P)
Anyway gave it a whirl..
Engine didn't seem to want to rev higher than about 2k or so. I planted my foot a bit more and still didn't want to rev harder, just kept going at same pace which seemed to be enough to turn a wheel maybe 2 but not sure.
I think something's seriously up with the car. It's definitely not producing the power it should be I'd say. Or it's not putting it down properly.

[Vt_vic]

dont you have permanent traction control ?

[soop]

It takes a little bit of balancing on the brake pedal.

Where does it stall up?
You should be able to hold the brakes pretty tight and mash the throttle, if there's no TC on it should over power the brakes.

Try brake standing it .
Roll forward a bit, 5 - 10km/h, then jump on the brakes and smash the throttle. It will unweight the rear end and they'll surely spin. Don't do It at macca's on on the street and who cares.

[Mirkz]

Vt_vic, no idea mate, I've got no traction control light that shows up or anything, and not sure how to check.

Cheers Soop, may try that.
Seemed to produce some smoke when I made my last attempt, however it honestly didn't sound like the tyres would be spinning enough to generate it, so wasn't sure if it was something else.
Couldn't smell anything though.

[soop]

LOL, this thread is so full of fail its win :P.

It's all good though. Funny stuff.

[Claudy]

Worse comes to worse, just rest ur bumper gently against a wall and then do it with no brakes haha might wanna put like a coupla rags between wall and car hahaha

[2DIE]

Man... I come out of the car wash yesterday, traction control was on and it still spun up and went sideways before traction control kicked in. That wasn't even half way to the floor and only slowly accelerating.

I still don't plan to do any "burn outs" but thats twice now shes spun without meaning to. Fair enough that time the wheels were a little wet from being washed but another time she just spun on take off because I was on concrete.

I cant afford to fix anything if I screw it so I'd rather not take any chances with my box or diff.

[Mirkz]

Yeah, not that desperate to drop a skid.
Was more curious as to what the deal is why it wouldn't light up.
My old skyline used to light up so much easier, just had to kick the clutch and out she went.
Prob just not used to a heavier car, especially seeing I had a ZX10R for 3yrs as my only form of transport before this thing. That thing could even do 6th gear rollers :P

I honestly think there's something up with the car, and it's lacking the power a 5L should have.

I'd love to catch up with someone who's got a 5L VT just to see how different it feels power wise to mine because I really have to stomp on it... hard. to get it to spin up (a little) when turning, let alone straight.