URGENT HELP- cant get wheel nut off

[kid_720datto]

long story short, i cant crack this nut, after swinging a breaker bar off it and rounding it, i tried the hammer and chisel. now the nut is completely f**ked ( i have spares).

what u guys reckon?
i thought take the whole front wheel off from behind. can u take the disc brake off the wheel from behind? either that or take it to somewhere with a oxy and burn the stud and nut out

please help!!!

[somefool]

nope just grind some flats into the rounded nut and try and get in there with an adjustable spanner or wrench. oxy would be (quite) advantageous

[kid_720datto]

there isnt a nut anymore, ive been trying to chisel it off now, not goin to well but it is getting there. cant really get a grinder in there anyway, the nuts sit into the rim a bit

[Rob_VT]

is it a stocky? or a rim?
if its a stocky, oxy on the nut and heat it, then spray something like plusgas or wd40 onto it (use alot)
then heat again and spray again.
do this a couple of times.
then get a smaller socket, impact socket if u have one, bout 2mm smaller and bash it on with a hammer.
then try the breaker bar with a hydraulic jack as leverage.
good luck mate

[kid_720datto]

its a VT ss rim. half the nut has been chiseled away so there is no way of putting any sort of socket on. might have a go with the drill and drill a few holes in the nut close to the stud and try to crack the nut in half. most likely have done a bit of thread damage to the stud. they not that expensive are they?

[lufkin]

able to get a picture of it?

[pablo]

Drilling a hole in the nut next to the stud and split with cold a chisel is the way to go!

[mag 87]

yeah i agreee with pablo... drill a few holes into the nut then use some form of heat on it then give it a smack with the chisel again... make sure youve got safety glasses on tho... it should split the nut in half. and to answer the other question the bolts are about 2 bucks each depending where you go!

[fuzzy2308]

got a pic?

[kid_720datto]

heres a picture. think im just gonna take it to a mechanic tomorrow. atleast they would have some sorta clue and proper shit to get it off. such a simple thing that turns into a massive headache

[kid_720datto]

oh and pretty sure rim is ####ed as well with all the banging and shit like that, so its stockies til i get another one

[87LAG]

holy shit thats crazy lol

as to getting it off geez have fun i reckon possibly oxy is the only way. maybe get a really big drill bit and drill it out like u would with a pop rivet then just replace the stud which is easy / cheap to do. . . . the wheel should be ok though

[Darcon666]

Well judging from the pic the nut has bitten into the rim and jammed itself.... and the actual stud looks like is bent as well...

A drill is going to be your answer, take it slow, use a brand new drill bit & oil.

[calais24/7]

:O how did that happen in the first place

[Drewie]

I think I would drill a series of small diameter holes in a straight line working out from the stud towards the outer edge of the nut, use a sharp centre punch to give the drill a nice start, hopefully once you have drilled say maybe 3 or 4 small holes you may be able to use a small chisel or screwdriver to split the bits between the holes you have drilled and split the nut and reduce the tension. Worth a try, bugger of a job which ever way you go, use a brand new quality drill bit and a sharp centre punch to start the drill. Good luck with it. As an after thought maybe put the other nuts on and do them up pretty tight while you work on ithe damaged one as they may take a bit of pressure off the buggered nut.

[Jacko84]

definately heat it up with a oxy helps alot

[kid_720datto]

thanks for all the inputs.
just gonna take it to the mechanics today though, save me wrecking it more.

it all started cause i couldnt get it off, i only have double hex sockets ( lost my wheel brace) and so it stripped, then tried hammer and chisel and that is whats left.

[lout]

get a larger nut preferably id is same as your od ,that you have a socket for and get someone to weld new nut to old nut

[Jesterarts]

heres a picture. think im just gonna take it to a mechanic tomorrow. atleast they would have some sorta clue and proper shit to get it off. such a simple thing that turns into a massive headache

In the words of Vinny:
...Tyrone, what've you done?

thanks for all the inputs.
just gonna take it to the mechanics today though, save me wrecking it more.

it all started cause i couldnt get it off, i only have double hex sockets ( lost my wheel brace) and so it stripped, then tried hammer and chisel and that is whats left.

Bit late for taking it to the mechanic at this point wouldn't you say?

I imagine that at best you're going to need a new stud and at works a new stud and rim.

I guess form this you can take away that if you have a really stubborn nut in the future, take it to a mechanic or tyre place for them to try and remove it with an impact wrench.

[HamaTime™]

long story short, i cant crack this nut, after swinging a breaker bar off it and rounding it, i tried the hammer and chisel. now the nut is completely f**ked ( i have spares).

INSTA FAIL

The hubs usually rust to the rim mounting face and the wheel nuts can also rust on...what you should have tried is some WD40 or lubricant before swinging too hard with the breaker bar...You can usually tell when a bolt is not budging and further force will break it.

If you burn the nut out your most likely to damage your rim...

No suggestions, you've ####ed that thing good and proper like a St. Kilda hooker.

[Brett_jjj]

If the rim is not a real good one,you could try loosening the other 4 wheel nuts,and then try driving around in a circle with that wheel on the outside to load up that particular wheel,this might load it up enough to snap the rest of the broken nut off, or it might even snap the stud,either one will do,and the stud will need replacing anyway,so that doesnt matter.And it wont hurt the car as the other 4 wheel nuts will hold the wheel on,you just need to have them loosened a few turns,say half way, so the rim has room to move sideways ,but not come off completely.Obviously I dont have to remind you to do this on private property so no one can get hurt..

[Zarconia]

I had the headache of one of the nuts on the thermostat snapping off, tried that ez crap, dont recommend it. Spend a good week pissing around trying to get the thing out. My advice. Stop right now.

Get someone with an oxy, weld a new nut on it then unscrew the new nut. Will take a few goes with the oxy but it will get it off in the end.

The rim by looks of it is going to be stuffed, but its your only option.

[])R@G()N]

By the look of that photo, The easiest way without wrecking the rim will be to drill the stud out.

Start with a 2mm drill bit for a pilot hole and plenty oil to keep the drill bit cool,(You don't need to drill it all the way, Just enough to get passed the wheel nut)
Then move to a drill bit around the same size as the wheel stud (use a slow drill speed)

[kid_720datto]

thanks DRAGON and Zarconia, i got it back from the mechanics for 88 bucks. he sed i had done a pretty good job chewing around the nut. thats exactly wat he done, drilled the stud out to the rim, pulled the rim off, replaced the stud and wheel nut. happy days. rim is stil ok, just a few gouge marks from the chisel but im not that fused, ill replace them with a clean set of 19's or somethin later on.

definitely taking it straight to a shop next time i cant get one of them off at home with a brace or breaker bar.

thanks again for all the inputs

[pablo]

Give your self a bit of an easier time by putting a smear of grease on the stud thread before you tighten the nut to 75 ft. lbs tension. (around 102 N.m. from memory)

OH!...and always use the correct size wrench.