VT GTS 355, tell me about it

[mangzilla]

Hey guys, I am currently getting rid of my 5L SS and a bloke offered me another SS with a VT GTS 355 5.7L motor in it, only in auto (mines manual).

I dont know anything about these motors so I was wondering if you could give me some info on them.

Are they a good motor? Much better then the 304? How do they compare to an LS1/5.8L stroker?

any info is much appreciated.

[nemesis_adrasteia]

Hey guys, I am currently getting rid of my 5L SS and a bloke offered me another SS with a VT GTS 355 5.7L motor in it, only in auto (mines manual).

I dont know anything about these motors so I was wondering if you could give me some info on them.

Are they a good motor? Much better then the 304? How do they compare to an LS1/5.8L stroker?

any info is much appreciated.

holden never made a 355, they made a 350.

so is it a factory stroker engine or a stroked 304(to 355)?

also 355 is ROUGHLY 5.8 litres

[ParkwayDrv]

^350 or 348?

[mangzilla]

well dont i look dumb. he said its motor with the harrop crank, so thats the 350 yeah?

[nemesis_adrasteia]

^350 or 348?

as far as i was aware, 350. happy to be proven wrong.

EDIT: 5737 cubic centimeter = 350.093 219 87 cubic inch

[nemesis_adrasteia]

well dont i look dumb. he said its motor with the harrop crank, so thats the 350 yeah?

harrop make stroker kits as far as i know.

but i would assume that it is the factory one as they did use a harrop crank(from what ive read)

i posted a thread a while back in the V8 development and modification subforum regarding these engines there was some good info in there.

[GEN3RATD]

massive amount of torque id presume, as with any stroker.

and id say more then likely its a factory stroker, because all VT GTS's were factory strokers

[ucwepn]

[mangzilla]

yeah its the factory stroker out of a gts, been put into an ss. apparently hes got receipts for the motor and what not.

do you think itd be worth sacrificing a manual 304 to go into the 350 in an auto? driving wise, would i even notice much of a difference?

[nemesis_adrasteia]

yeah its the factory stroker out of a gts, been put into an ss. apparently hes got receipts for the motor and what not.

do you think itd be worth sacrificing a manual 304 to go into the 350 in an auto? driving wise, would i even notice much of a difference?

best be is ask him to let you test drive it, honestly though unless you paticularly attached to holden V8s buy one with a gen 3 or better

[undar8ed1]

Its funny that`s its strapped to an auto, I thought all the senator 220i/GTS were manual only combos, must have been tuned to that box (must have been the only one accessible for the swap at the time).

You will notice a difference.

Also not much difference between the power output/torque of the LS1 vs stroker both had 475nm in stock form (VT) the 2 biggest differences would be exhaust sound and weight (ls1 is all alloy).

[nemesis_adrasteia]

Its funny that`s its strapped to an auto, I thought all the senator 220i/GTS were manual only combos, must have been tuned to that box (must have been the only one accessible for the swap at the time).

You will notice a difference.

Also not much difference between the power output/torque of the LS1 vs stroker both had 475nm in stock form (VT) the 2 biggest differences would be exhaust sound and weight (ls1 is all alloy).

they definitely made auto
1997 HSV SENATOR SIGNATURE 220I VT Private Cars For Sale in QLD - carsales.com.au

1998 HSV GTS VT Private Cars For Sale in QLD - carsales.com.au

[dirt drifter]

vt motor is sequential injection as well, previous motors fired either all injectors at once, or each bank at once im not sure

[GEN3RATD]

they were definately auto's as well, id go as far to say more auto then manuals. VT senators with the 220i stroker and the 6spd are rare as hens teeth.

i got the wrong idea in this thread, i thought you were buying a genuine VT GTS 220i. VTII-VX SS ftmfw.

[ucwepn]

I second that skip the holden 5.7 and get an ls1 you wont regret it.

[VTLS1]

Great video but this is the VT GTS 220i which is the 5.7 LS1 with 6 speed manual,not the VT GTS 195i which has the 5 speed manual.
Should you do this swap for a VT with a GTS engine in it,if it has the harrop crank its the VT GTS 195i version(holden v8 stroked) which is still a fairly good engine but,it cant be that good as the same year these were released they brought out the 220i version with the LS1 engine(350 chev).Lastly it would have been fantastic if it was the VT GTS 300 engine,these little monsters pumped out 402bhp compared to the VT GTS 220i which only managed a miserable 295bhp. If its indeed only the 195i engine,just keep what you have & make it a ball tearer. If your really after a bit more grunt find a good VT or VX with an LS1 chev engine.

[nemesis_adrasteia]

Great video but this is the VT GTS 220i which is the 5.7 LS1 with 6 speed manual,not the VT GTS 195i which has the 5 speed manual.
Should you do this swap for a VT with a GTS engine in it,if it has the harrop crank its the VT GTS 195i version(holden v8 stroked) which is still a fairly good engine but,it cant be that good as the same year these were released they brought out the 220i version with the LS1 engine(350 chev).Lastly it would have been fantastic if it was the VT GTS 300 engine,these little monsters pumped out 402bhp compared to the VT GTS 220i which only managed a miserable 295bhp. If its indeed only the 195i engine,just keep what you have & make it a ball tearer. If your really after a bit more grunt find a good VT or VX with an LS1 chev engine.

did you read the thread?

the 220i is the stroked holden engine its displacent equals roughly 350 cubic inches.

the 195i is the last of the HSV 5 litres their diplacement equals roughly 304 cubic inches

i dont know how many times ive said it a gen 3 isnt a 350

The Generation III 5.7 L shares little other than similar displacement, external dimensions, and rod bearings, with its predecessor. It is an all-aluminium 5,665 cc (5.665 L; 345.7 cu in) pushrod engine with a bore of 3.898 in (99.0 mm) and a stroke of 3.62 in (92 mm).

[GEN3RATD]

Great video but this is the VT GTS 220i which is the 5.7 LS1 with 6 speed manual,not the VT GTS 195i which has the 5 speed manual.
Should you do this swap for a VT with a GTS engine in it,if it has the harrop crank its the VT GTS 195i version(holden v8 stroked) which is still a fairly good engine but,it cant be that good as the same year these were released they brought out the 220i version with the LS1 engine(350 chev).Lastly it would have been fantastic if it was the VT GTS 300 engine,these little monsters pumped out 402bhp compared to the VT GTS 220i which only managed a miserable 295bhp. If its indeed only the 195i engine,just keep what you have & make it a ball tearer. If your really after a bit more grunt find a good VT or VX with an LS1 chev engine.

false

there was no VT GTS 195i, the 195i was simply the 5L that was fitted to the Clubsports and some Senators

ALL VT GTS's were fitted with the 220i 5.7 stroker which was a 5L fitted with a harrop crank. It was also an option with the Senator. Both were either 4spd auto or 6spd manual. The 5spd was reserved for the 195i engines.

Clarkson was test driving the VT GTS 220i 5.7 stroker with the 6spd. VTII GTS was a 300kw C4B LS1.

[VTLS1]

false

there was no VT GTS 195i, the 195i was simply the 5L that was fitted to the Clubsports and some Senators

ALL VT GTS's were fitted with the 220i 5.7 stroker which was a 5L fitted with a harrop crank. It was also an option with the Senator. Both were either 4spd auto or 6spd manual. The 5spd was reserved for the 195i engines.

Clarkson was test driving the VT GTS 220i 5.7 stroker with the 6spd. VTII GTS was a 300kw C4B LS1.

I stand corrected,after some double checking the info i have appears out of whack in regards to the VT GTS but,still i stand by my answer & wouldnt worry about doing a swap,get a VT with an LS1 or just put some balls into what you have got

[ParkwayDrv]

Rofl @ saying a vx ss is better than a vt gts.

[1998GTS]

This is mine...98 VT GTS 5.7 220i Stroker.



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[GEN3RATD]

Rofl @ saying a vx ss is better than a vt gts.

Personal opinion, I for one would always pick the VX SS over a boat anchor.

[Vt_vic]

ive driven the vt gts and after owning a auto vxss id take the gts if it was manual only

[undar8ed1]

they definitely made auto
1997 HSV SENATOR SIGNATURE 220I VT Private Cars For Sale in QLD - carsales.com.au

1998 HSV GTS VT Private Cars For Sale in QLD - carsales.com.au

cool..........

[mangzilla]

well this thread certainly blossomed!

after pondering on it for a day or two, i decided against the swap. The small gains I would make would not be worth going to an auto IMO. I love having a manual too much, So for now my options are still open.

Thanks for the info guys, definately helped me make up my mind.