overtightened wheel nuts by using rattle guns

[hunterjerry]

ok guys and girls
Whenever you go to get anything done at a tire shop please check your wheel nuts cause it maybe overtightened (well most of the time they are overtightened). So it's a good practice to check your wheel nuts every time you go to the tire shop it will save you time and money.
A few weeks ago i went and got a wheel alignment and yesterday 4 of 5 of my wheel studs broke on the front right wheel.
All 5 of the wheel studs are brand new, I know cause I got them from repco myself 5/6 months ago.

[dobesz]

More of a prick when the rock apes tighten them so much that u need a 1m long pipe over wheel brace to loosen them!!!! Kinda hard when u have a flat in the middle of know place!

[accentstencil]

They often over-inflate them as well.

[shane_3800]

it's not actually overtightening that causes it

it's when the thread has dirt/rust on it or when the tyre fitter cross threads the nuts

i use grease on wheel studs to prevent cross threading

overthightend nuts can also strech studs

[hunterjerry]

flat tire is not that bad, yesterday i have to get a tow truck to get my car home that cost around 200 bucks

[hunterjerry]

cross threading?
how/when can that happen??
what type of grease do u use?

it's not actually overtightening that causes it

it's when the thread has dirt/rust on it or when the tyre fitter cross threads the nuts

i use grease on wheel studs to prevent cross threading

overthightend nuts can also strech studs

[shane_3800]

cross threading?
how/when can that happen??
what type of grease do u use?

just re read your post it sounds like the studs may have been streched

but any grease will do and just wind the nuts on by hand for first few threads that will stop cross threading

[hunterjerry]

I never use rattle gun cause i dont have one at home the only time the nuts been touch by a rattle guns are from a tire shop for 2 new tires and a wheel alignment

just re read your post it sounds like the studs may have been streched

but any grease will do and just wind the nuts on by hand for first few threads that will stop cross threading

[hunterjerry]

I never use rattle gun cause i dont have one at home the only time the nuts been touch by a rattle guns are from a tire shop for 2 new tires and a wheel alignment

just re read your post it sounds like the studs may have been streched

but any grease will do and just wind the nuts on by hand for first few threads that will stop cross threading

[DAVIDC]

I have a rattle gun which I use on mine and my mates cars and never have any of them complained about something a long these lines.
Although my dad had the tyres changed on the wagon not to long ago and yesterday I went to change the brakes and (being at my dads house not having the rattle gun) had to use a 1m pole to get one of the front nuts off! quite annoying !

[Drewie]

My mechanic always does the wheel nuts up with a torque wrench so I never have any issues with over tightened wheel nuts.
Re the using lubricant on the wheel studs, I used to use a smear of grease but have since changed my mind, after reading up a lot on the subject it appears it is better to just make sure the studs and nuts are clean and dry and torque the wheels up to the correct tension.
I was reading the drivers handbook on my sons 2009 VW Golf the other day and there is a big bold entry in the changing wheels area saying under no circumstances use any lubricant on the wheel studs, as the torque value will be incorrect and the nuts may come loose. Do a Google on wheel nuts and have a read.

[muttley383]

There is also a problem with over torquing the wheel nuts can cause the disc rotor hat to distort causing braking issues.
I think there was some tech write up on the DBA website about this.

[machone]

the other day I heard a thump at our shop window then a loud scraping noise it was a car going down the road his left front wheel came off and hit our shop window....next thing this guy from kmart wheel and tyres came running up..im guessing someone forgot to put the wheel nuts on...whoops someones ass is going to be kicked..... also my mate ages ago did up a beautiful fx holden he got wheels fitted came home thought the steering felt funny on his way back so he jacked up the front end....hey nice job guys 1 wheel nut on the rim....he just had the car painted as well....he rang the company up and tore strips off them....and the other day i took myVH SLE to get new front shocks put in i bought the shocks and had a tyre place fit them for $140 incl alignment cool price i thought saved me doing them and out of habit i got home car drove fine but i thought ill check the wheel nuts....hey cool look i can still turn these nuts 2 more times around without effort....grrrrr ########s.....but in all fairness when i got my cheetar rims on my VX SS the guys at bob jane torqued them up told me to come back around 250 klms so they can retorque them to make sure all is ok....BUT EVEN THEN I STILL CHECKED THEM lol.....always double check your wheel nuts when you take your rims off always !!!! and make sure not to overtighten them the should be torqued up * cough* i just do them up tight.

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

There is also a problem with over torquing the wheel nuts can cause the disc rotor hat to distort causing braking issues.
I think there was some tech write up on the DBA website about this.

It's just not over torquing, it's incorrect and uneven torquing that can cause run out in the rotors. VT-VZ's are the main models affected by this.

[shane_3800]

It's just not over torquing, it's incorrect and uneven torquing that can cause run out in the rotors. VT-VZ's are the main models affected by this.

this is correct even if the nuts are over torqued if they are all torqued even the rotor wont distort


as for lubricant on threads vw use bolts into the hub not studs