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    just picked up my car from lmg at warnertown, got 260rwkw on the dyno with vcm otr, comp cam, and full exhaust. wwhat do you guys reckon?

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    pretty healthy figure.
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    Maybe put the standard cam back in, I got 270rwkw when I had similar mods except cam

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASAUTE View Post
    Maybe put the standard cam back in, I got 270rwkw when I had similar mods except cam
    Was it on the same dyno/operator?

    If not then absolutely no comparrison.

    OP,manual or auto?

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    I realise this but c'mon, 260 with cam? Unless of course he's talking about his Magna lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASAUTE View Post
    I realise this but c'mon, 260 with cam? Unless of course he's talking about his Magna lol
    If numbers on a dyno sheet is all you care about then I guess its a "tad" low.So was my 308 207rwkw VH but it ran the numbers(11.88@115mph)that suggest it had around 230rwkw.

    My cousin had his VZ 6ltr tuned at KPM by the original owner and showed 291rwkw on paper,when run up on our familys dyno it made 241rwkw befor more mods.With a re-tweak of the mafless tune it went 257 on the std cam(exhaust/Ramjet only)but went like a scalded cat.Good enough for a 12.7 1/4.He doesnt have huge numbers on paper but gets the ones at the track.

    Food for thought bloke

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    Did I just read that your cousins 6l went 257 with standard cam on your families low reading dyno? Isn't this in line with my original post? Bloke?

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    Seems to be about right mate, bet your loving how it feels when your drop that right foot down abit lol
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    its a comp 222/224 @112 lsa so its a small to mild cam, i didnt want to go too big because its the first cammed car ive had and i installed it myself. to tell you the truth i can only notice a little difference its not much.

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    oh forgot to ad, the clutch was slipping in 4th so he had to do the run in 3rd

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASAUTE View Post
    Maybe put the standard cam back in, I got 270rwkw when I had similar mods except cam
    mate you have a 6lt right? those numbers of yours sound about right, i was hoping for above the 260 but i have heard of gen 3's getting 240+ with exhaust and otr, kind of makes me wonder if it was worth spending 1300 on the cam package

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravotwozero View Post
    About what?
    what do you reckon about the numbers it pulled for the mods...

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    Yes 6lt. I do think 260 does seem low but for $1300 if it goes harder then that's awesome! Forgetting about dyno figures mine made over 50% more power then it did stock after the cam upgrade (with otr and exhaust) but it cost nearly 5k though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ASAUTE View Post
    Maybe put the standard cam back in, I got 270rwkw when I had similar mods except cam
    mate you have a 6lt right? those numbers of yours sound about right, i was hoping for above the 260 but i have heard of gen 3's getting 240+ with exhaust and otr, kind of makes me wonder if it was worth spending 1300 on the cam package

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnno010684 View Post
    mate you have a 6lt right? those numbers of yours sound about right, i was hoping for above the 260 but i have heard of gen 3's getting 240+ with exhaust and otr, kind of makes me wonder if it was worth spending 1300 on the cam package
    Yea I got 310 rwhp out of mine with just an exhaust & otr. Its an old vx with many many k's on it ......its fun none the less

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSirWantalot View Post
    Yea I got 310 rwhp out of mine with just an exhaust & otr. Its an old vx with many many k's on it ......its fun none the less
    thats about 231 rwkw mate, kind of numbers i was expecting with just an exhaust and tune, btw mine has just clicked 202000

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASAUTE View Post
    Yes 6lt. I do think 260 does seem low but for $1300 if it goes harder then that's awesome! Forgetting about dyno figures mine made over 50% more power then it did stock after the cam upgrade (with otr and exhaust) but it cost nearly 5k though.
    yeah i can step on it in 4th doing 80kmh and it doesnt yake long to get to 140. but i was expecting a bit more punch. it still wont turn the wheels going around a corner in 2nd. all up exhaust, cam package, and tune/otr cost me $4720

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnno010684 View Post
    oh forgot to ad, the clutch was slipping in 4th so he had to do the run in 3rd
    This.

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    that's fairly normal dyno read out for that sized cam - once clutch problem is solved you will gain a bit more.

    did you do UDP?

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    Depending on cam size that seems like a pretty healthy reading.

    I made 229rwkw (auto) with tune, otr, cats and catback. That was up from 204rwkw before tune and otr. Car is much more lively now though, eventually though the bug will bite again and something is going to be done about stock cam and diff gears.

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    no i didnt do UDP kind of run out of funds at the time, its a hard car to drive now, i really have to ride the clutch for ages to get going. if i slowly let it grab and then give a couple of revs to take off (like when it was standard) it will drop down to 1-200 rpm and nearly die and then bunny hop like crazy!

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    Sounds like it needs some love from a good tuner, a small cam like that should drive like stock. If you don't live close to someone good I recommend Steve from Oztrack

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    im gonna ring the guy back on monday, i agree it should drive well. i dont want to outlay another 700 for a tune to fix up someone elses problem.

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