Yet another VT Rear Camber problem.

[Gh0stK1ll3r]

Hi Guys,

I just installed a camber kit on the rear of my VT Wagon.
I've had it aligned by a pro and all is well..............on the left, the right is still out to buggery.
He said it could need axle shortening or a new arm.
My Question is this:
Where can I get this checked and/or fixed? (Near Yarrawonga Victoria)
What cost am I looking at?

Cheers guys
-Gh0stK1ll3r

[Mirkz]

get a 2nd opinion first?

[Gh0stK1ll3r]

Thats what I'm after, the bloke that did the alignment told me that no one in Yarrawonga would no what to do with it.
Even he had no idea how to fix it.

[Gh0stK1ll3r]

I should also note that I only did the inner kit. Was told that doing both would bugger the diff and or axle.
Cheers guys

[1_johnboy]

Call around Albruy/Wodonga there will be someone there thats can fix it

[Gh0stK1ll3r]

Cheers 1_johnboy will do

[Killr6]

should spend some coin and get a vy/vz cradle. so you dont have a mega bad camber

[Gh0stK1ll3r]

should spend some coin and get a vy/vz cradle. so you dont have a mega bad camber

VY/YZ Cradle?

[phatvtcom]

I've heard from a number of tyre/suspension places that they're a waste of money and time, they don't do much in the long term. I was after a 4 point camber kit and they said don't bother. That's just what I heard from the pros

[Gh0stK1ll3r]

Well there is no taking them out now. :/
It's made a huge difference to the feel of the ride.
Let's just say it was a damb site worse before I did the job.

[showbags]

On a VT, a camber kit will only slow down your tyre wear not fix it. So you either have to live with it or do the VY craddle conversion.

[Tim Smtih]

I had the same issue with the right side, the guy said he couldn't get it spot on. He didn't recommend anything besides trying a four point kit instead of a two.

[Ian Johnston]

Sounds like you need to go to someone who actually knows what they are doing.
My daughters VT Clubby had camber kits fitted, and her tyre wear has been very flat since.

[JMP]

I've got a camber kit on my series 1 calais with super lows in the rear and gas tank in the boot. 1 year on and got the alignment checked not long ago, it was almost perfect. The guy doing it was surprised he could get it so close with the height of the rear end and my rear tyres are still wearing even.

[glenn l]

sounds like the x-member and or trailing arm is bent, if it wasnt you should be able to get both sides even or close to it.

[CHEETR]

sounds like you have a crack in the cradle, pretty common problem that i see weekly usually above the diff

[monkeys437]

I took my IRS VS with camber kit to 4 places in 6 months and not one of them could do an alignment. They took my money and when I got the car back the wheels were at different angles even to the naked eye. I got all sorts of excuses like its impossible to get it perfect, near enough is good enough, chassis twisted, control arm bush isn't pressed in properly (which it clearly was) etc.

Finally took it to a peddars who charged me a bit for an alignment but got it perfect and I haven't touched it for 2 years and its still sweet.

Id say find someone capable of doing an decent alignment or willing to spend the time to get it right before throwing money replacing parts needlessly

[vn_v6]

i have a mate with vz cradle and he still gets camber wear?? :S

[Killr6]

i have a mate with vz cradle and he still gets camber wear?? :S

yeah you will still get camber wear, just not as bad as the vt's.

how low has your mate gone?

[Gh0stK1ll3r]

Thanks guys, I will try all these things, is it worth double checking the right rear alignment myself, to see if the tyre auto man was just a nit wit? I've got instructions that came with the kit on aligning the rear.

[Shen Long]

I heard & read the same thing to about getting a 4 point camber kit.

Something to do with the diff or a tailshaft issue.

2 point camber kit (inner i believe) is the best you can get.

it won't eliminate camber wear but it will slow it down a lot.

is this correct???

[monkeys437]

I heard & read the same thing to about getting a 4 point camber kit.

Something to do with the diff or a tailshaft issue.

2 point camber kit (inner i believe) is the best you can get.

it won't eliminate camber wear but it will slow it down a lot.

is this correct???

Camber kit should have no effect whatsoever on diff or tailshaft for an IRS car.

What I was told is 2 point gives some adjustability but 4 points gives more. So 4 points is better providing you can get someone to align it properly. It seems to be that very few people are any good at aligning these bad boys so they take your cash and blame the hardware

[Shen Long]

Camber kit should have no effect whatsoever on diff or tailshaft for an IRS car.

What I was told is 2 point gives some adjustability but 4 points gives more. So 4 points is better providing you can get someone to align it properly. It seems to be that very few people are any good at aligning these bad boys so they take your cash and blame the hardware

taken from the Nolathane website...

http://www.nolathane.com.au/install_..._50-6138GB.pdf

DO NOT DISCARD
Keep these instructions in Glove Box
Wheel alignment Instructions
For I.R.S Camber and Toe Adjuster
NB: All adjustments should be done at inner point only. Outer
point should be set with crush tube set at 12 O’clock position as in
Diagram 1 and not adjusted.
Any adjustment of outer point may cause drive shaft and or
differential failure.

[Full Spectrum]

should spend some coin and get a vy/vz cradle. so you dont have a mega bad camber

I almost did this myself. But my suspension guy told me to keep the extra cash and he will fit and supply the camber kit. Best thing i ever did it's pretty much as good as you can get it. But in all honesty you just need to find the right people who's job is solely suspension work.

[monkeys437]

taken from the Nolathane website...

http://www.nolathane.com.au/install_..._50-6138GB.pdf

DO NOT DISCARD
Keep these instructions in Glove Box
Wheel alignment Instructions
For I.R.S Camber and Toe Adjuster
NB: All adjustments should be done at inner point only. Outer
point should be set with crush tube set at 12 O’clock position as in
Diagram 1 and not adjusted.
Any adjustment of outer point may cause drive shaft and or
differential failure.

I think the drive shaft this is talking about are the axle shafts, (CV shafts, half shafts or whatever you want to call them) and NOT the tailshaft. The tailshaft can't be damaged by adjusting toe and camber because the diff is rigidly mounted to the cross memeber. And for the thing about only adjusting the inner bush only that sounds like a "cover our arse" statement to protect the product from being held responsible for any damage thats caused by a poor installation/adjustment. This wouldn't surprise me after seeing some of the clueless monkeys out there doing rear alignments. I work in the automotive aftermarket and the majority of the stuff that we sell for modified cars voids terms, conditions and warranty so we cant get sued for damages due to a poorly thought out backyard combo or some "performance" workshop who has a stuff up and tries to handball the blame. I cant see any risk in having an adjustable outer bush providing its aligned by someone who knows their stuff