Hey guys my Pads I'm using ATM are cheap and sqeaking Like crazy, I was thinking about upgrading to these pads. Anyone else use these pads? Are they noisy etc? And I also read you don't need to bed these pads in? Is that true? I wouldn't mind some other people's opions on these pads.
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I've had them, not a bad pad, dusty as hell though. The best pads I've ever had are by far the QFM A1RM from GSLRallySport, hands down the best I ever had. Sure they cost a bit, but its your brakes, don't go cheap.
Also I bed in all my new pads, regardless of what the box says.
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I found Bendix ultimate to be excellent brake pads.
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I get around 9-12 months out of a set of Bendix ultimates.. Ive also found that Ferodo's top of the line pads work and last about the same as the bendix ultimates, and are a similar price. Ive been using both brands for a few years now with excellent results..
I'm happy with Bendix Ultimate pads - no squealing like the $30 "cheap as chip" type auto store units... I tossed them in the bin with only a few 1,000kms on them as they were just shocking on the ears.
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Ive found ultimates to be squeaky and very dusty... and i mean light dust coverage in only a few days. AND the chew up rotors very quickly
Swapped them with up spec (cant remember model?) Ferodo pad and they work beautifully.
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Ferodo TS2000s are a great pad, no squeal unless you let them glaze up (just rebed them to fix this), Ferodo DS2500s squeal and are harsh on your rotors, found this on my last car (Tuned Liberty GT Turbo) but Remsa pads from Greg at GSL Rallysport are great on the Commodore, contact him for advice on your driving style, great pricing, quick service too
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I've just installed Bendix GCT's all round on my original rotors. Cost about $70 a set. I've found them to be really good, no dust, no noise and they pull up heaps better than the factory ones did. Also says no bedding in, but I did anyway.
I don't race my car or tow anything so for what I do I've found them to be great for the price.
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Im using bendix ultimate pads in the front of my wagon
Noise is only an issue under hard braking (pretty sure its due to slotted rotors, never had a problem with standard rotors), dont throw out a lot of dust and have lasted me just over 12 months so far
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Rotor wear is probably more to do with the rotor quality then the pads used on them. As I mentioned in my above post, I go through pads pretty quickly due to my "spirited" driving style. I nearly always brake heaps hard, and I dont have problems with excessive disc wear. I use DBA standard replacement discs.
I dont care about how much dust pads make, I find they all make plenty of dust under constant heavy braking, I go on how good they work, last, and cost, more than anything else. Ive renewed the 4 discs twice in around 7 years or so. The last set I fitted have done a shedload of K's now, and were are still within minimum specs last time I checked them about month or two ago, although they wont last too much longer.. Theyve probably had about 6 or so sets of pads through them now. Ive also found over the years that if the pads are not bedded in properly,they will suffer from noise or squeal problems. I once fitted the calibre brand cheapie $25 brake pads ,just to get me through until payday to save the disc from getting all scored etc,and I couldnt wait to get them off, they squealed like mad.
I'd have to say Green stuff pads. When I do my rotors and pads I'm getting them.
All the skyline/supra bros I know use them and they are the ducks guts IMO.
My mate with a supra hasn't touched his since he bought the car 2.5 years (nearly 35,000kms) ago! and they still stop great!
They cost a lot more but considering how often you have to change pads I don't see why people use anything cheaper.
That's because you drive hard....
Pads don't directly interact with the rotor, they interact with a layer of their own material which has been transferred to the rotor. When a pad that's designed to work at elevated temperatures is being driven sedately for most of it's time, the transfer rate onto the rotor is too low, so the pad actually eats away at the rotor, rather than sacrificing itself. That's why, the VAST majority of people that run Bendix Ultimates experience higher than normal rotor wear, which also accounts for a large % of the excessive dust they normally produce. We're not anti Bendix Ultimates, indeed we sell them, but there's far better pads out there for money. The ironic thing about them is they behave like a really high temp pad, yet aren't rated that high at all...
So above reasoning is also why I advise against running QFM A1RM in a street car unless you're doing track work, or drive spiritedly all the time.
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No, no they're not. Sorry dude. Again, I'll start this by saying we also stock EBC (about about 14 other brands of pads) so I'm not in any way biased against them, and if I could find a good reason to sell someone a pad twice the price of everything else, I'd try, but honestly, there isn't one. EBC Green's work ok in Europe where their rotors are softer, and their ambient temperatures are lower, but over here, they're HIDEOUSLY overpriced, and not that crash hot...
They cost alot more cause they go through about 3 extra distributions channels by the time you get them here. Check pricing on EBC pads on UK or USA based websites, then exchange that back to the A dollar, and they're no more expensive than Bendix Ultimate. Please don't fool yourself into thinking your buying a pad twice as good as everything else on the market because it's twice the price...They cost a lot more but considering how often you have to change pads I don't see why people use anything cheaper.
- GSL RallySport - Ph: 1300 884 836 -
Sick of paying too much for high performance brake pads? Want high performance and cold bite with low rotor wear?
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My VY has GMH pads front and rear and slotted rotors front and rear. The pads were pretty new when I got the car and I've done about 30,000km in 3 years and they have hardly worn. I find the genuine pads adequate, the car stops well, they do not squeal and there is minimal dust and they appear to be long lasting.
I got the QFM's off gslrallysport after having all types of pads from factory to bendix. By far the best are these QFM's. Great stopping power, very low drop in feel when going hard and hot. Brake dust what's that?.
Originally Posted by Yoda
what sort if price did you pay for the QFM's? i will buy some off greg (gslrallysport)
i have started a thread in his section asking for some prices.
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QFM's HPX. I think Greg calls them the police spec pads. Price you'll have to ask Greg as time changes everything price wise.
Tell you one thing. I have seen people use these pads and replace the disc's before the pads. They go a long way.
Originally Posted by Yoda
- GSL RallySport - Ph: 1300 884 836 -
Sick of paying too much for high performance brake pads? Want high performance and cold bite with low rotor wear?
- QFM Performance Brake Pads -
Also specialising in
- DMS High Performance Shock Absorbers - Monit Rally Computers -
Bendix Ultimates.
The main case that pushed me over the line for Green Stuff is a mate with a Caprice who had Bendix Ultimates and DBA slotted rotors. Not 15,000km's later the rotors and pads were cactus. New set of DBA slotted rotors and Green Stuff pads - Nearly 21,000km's, new pads, rotors still fine, didn't even need machining. This is a guy who gives his car a lot.
We managed to get the pads from wholesale and saved a bunch so I know what you mean about getting em cheaper.
That says everything about Bendix, and nothing about EBC though...Bendix Ultimates and DBA slotted rotors. Not 15,000km's later the rotors and pads were cactus.
I should hope so! That's not that impressive... If you said 121,000km's maybe!New set of DBA slotted rotors and Green Stuff pads - Nearly 21,000km's, new pads, rotors still fine, didn't even need machining.
Anyways, I've said my piece. As I say, we stock both Bendix and EBC, but given the other brands we also do, I wouldn't put either of them on my car...
- GSL RallySport - Ph: 1300 884 836 -
Sick of paying too much for high performance brake pads? Want high performance and cold bite with low rotor wear?
- QFM Performance Brake Pads -
Also specialising in
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