VE engine in a VT

[maurso]

Hi

My VT commodore has a blown head gasket and I have to get a new engine.

My question is does a VE engine fit into my VT engine bay?

Or can I put in a V6 SuperCharge engine in?

What is involved and what other parts do I have to change to fix the problem?

[scvs6]

It would be heaps cheaper and heaps easier just to fit a L67 (supercharged V6). It wouldn't be worth the effort to try and fit a VE V6 plus all the modifications, and the ECU and BCM wont connect to each other.

L67, just bolts straight in, just have to change the wiring loom and ECU (maybe the BCM) which isn't a big job.

[showbags]

It can be done. But it an expensive exercise. It'll cost you about the same as an LS3 conversion.

[ismasiv]

Y is it so costly??? dose anyone know what is involved and has anyone done the conversion???

[scvs6]

Y is it so costly??? dose anyone know what is involved and has anyone done the conversion???

You would have to make up brackets for the engine mounts, (because VT's never came out with Alloytec V6's, there wont be a K Frame to suit), transmission will have to be changed as the bell housing would probably be different, ECU and BCM (not sure what would have to be done there), wiring loom/s will be different. I am pretty sure that the diff ratios are different so it wont feel the same to drive i'd say.

Not sure what else but pretty sure there would be more.

[MikeCuzzy]

Y is it so costly??? dose anyone know what is involved and has anyone done the conversion???

Because you're trying to fuse two incompatible cars together?

Just get an Ecotec for it, will be so much cheaper and arguably better. If you must have more power *Tim Taylor grunt* just whack a V8 in there.

[TonyJZX]

the VE V6 is a pile of garbage anyway... i would imagine you could spend more than $5k paying someone to get this done and its still crap

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[Sabbath']

Hi

My VT commodore has a blown head gasket and I have to get a new engine.

My question is does a VE engine fit into my VT engine bay?

Or can I put in a V6 SuperCharge engine in?

What is involved and what other parts do I have to change to fix the problem?

Alloytec conversion will cost more than it will be worth.

Super6 or just put another V6 in there.

[RiCeY]

Not that incompatible as the VZ had basically the same V6 as the VE.

As said it would be an expensive exercise though, complete wiring loom, ECU, BCM etc.

Definately go the super6, more power potential and much easier/cheaper.

[scvs6]

If you really wanted to, you could buy a VE Commodore, take all the panels off and replace them with you VT panels, and swap interiors. But there will be a few gaps around the car, and you would look like a tool driving it on public roads.

You have have listed two options:

1. My question is does a VE engine fit into my VT engine bay?

2. Or can I put in a V6 SuperCharge engine in?

Answer to number one: Don't bother, it would probably fit but you would have to make too many modifications and it will need an engineers report.

Answer to number two: Yes you can put a supercharged V6 in, it will be the easiest option and you wont have to change K Frame or anything like that. Or you could get the V8, swap the K Frame and whatever else you need to swap to fit the V8.

[ucwepn]

couldn't you use a VZ alloytec, vz K-frame, vz box, vz wiring and the rest? Theoretically it would all bolt in but I can't see the point to be honest, just go with the L67 or V8.

[showbags]

couldn't you use a VZ alloytec, vz K-frame, vz box, vz wiring and the rest? Theoretically it would all bolt in but I can't see the point to be honest, just go with the L67 or V8.

VZ ECU & VT BCM won't talk to each other. You need to use aftermarket management.

[njmartin]

try pick up a 253 for it, you'd be better off

[Clutchy]

Why can't ya just put new head gaskets on ya current engine ?

[Cameron P]

Why can't ya just put new head gaskets on ya current engine ?

Farkin genius work there!!!!

Unless he cooked the engine lol but still genius

[RiCeY]

How do you know its a head gasket? Milky coolant isnt always a head gasket.

[Mick1988]

You could use a VZ K frame to support a VE motor. Wiring and computer you could change over yourself you would have to ask Holden if they would be able to link a VT BCM and a VE ECU.

Or for a shit load less money and effort you could buy a gasket set off eBay for less than 200 bucks and fix your motor.

[c2105026]

Latter idea is the best - fix the head gasket (if that is what the issue is). If you can do the work yourself, maybe $500 tops. What mileage on your engine? A reco exchange may also be a sensible option. IMHO for day-to-day driving standard ecotec V6 has enough oomph; supercharging/V8s may only work if you intend to race it.

[pjdm1980]

Just toss the old VT and buy a VE their going for about $10,000 now! Lol

[PaRaDoX]

You would have to make up brackets for the engine mounts, (because VT's never came out with Alloytec V6's, there wont be a K Frame to suit), transmission will have to be changed as the bell housing would probably be different, ECU and BCM (not sure what would have to be done there), wiring loom/s will be different. I am pretty sure that the diff ratios are different so it wont feel the same to drive i'd say.

Not sure what else but pretty sure there would be more.

You could bolt in a VY/VZ alloytech Kframe, its all the same chassis VT-VX-VX-VY
I personally wouldnt bother, you have to fit the PCM(powertrain control module, tune it for the gearbox or fit the VE gearbox), Make the looms mate together nicely and all for a loss in capacity and "spark injection"

the L67 is a good choice, the ECU is actually the same as the N/A V6 just the EPROM is different however you can source a HSV XU6 Tune or even a std S/C one easily, it uses a 27C010 32pin EPROM. Just make sure you get the injectors etc you'll need to fit a bigger fuel pump too.

Given they used this engine upto about 2003-2004 you should beable to get a create motor still, last check it was about $5000 for a brand spanker. (more than likley bare block)