which models had tyre chewing problems?

[ascension24]

Ive read many complaints but not one post stating exactly what models were affected by this bodgy IRS or whatever it was.

Does anyone know? or have a good article about it, as im going to bet buying a VT or VX soon and would def wanna stear clear of this problem.

[Lumps of cheese]

Well, it seems if ya wanna buy one, get a vx series 2.
I think they sorted it out.....I think!

[ascension24]

So, were the problems seen in the very first VTs made off the line? was it a random thing, or a very common problem, 1 in every 100 or so? etc

[Lumps of cheese]

Dunno mate, i just did mine in my series 2 vt but reading some of the posts here it seems it was quite common among most vt's and vx series ones.
The guys that did mine said they do heaps of vt's and that they do alot of vx's too but seemed to think they solved the problem with the series 2.

[ascension24]

Just did yours? as in you got it fixed?

What exactly did they change/replace and how much if you dont mind me asking.

[Lumps of cheese]

O.k, they lifted the ass end up a bit, in order to do this they drilled two new holes to get more height.
They had to replace one back shock cause it was destroyed along with 2 new tyres, the reason they re-drilled was to get more adjustment, i have to say that it rides heaps better, as well as sits better.
By the time i did all that it was as follows:

2 tyres: 300 bucks
Camber kit: 500 bucks (labour included in price)
Rear shock: Havn't got the bill yet!!!
All in all pretty good i thought, depends where you take it and who you know.

[Michelson4301]

I thought all models with IRS have tyre wearing problems as far back as VN Group A's

[minux]

VN group A had IRS?

Anyways, for me ive only seen one of about 50 cars(people with vt's vx's) have the chewing out problem, that was my gf's VT SS. Fixed for $460 at pedders never had a problem since. Under warranty holden told us to take it there rather than use their own fix

[Night]

VN group A had IRS?

Anyways, for me ive only seen one of about 50 cars(people with vt's vx's) have the chewing out problem, that was my gf's VT SS. Fixed for $460 at pedders never had a problem since. Under warranty holden told us to take it there rather than use their own fix

Thats the point, every car doesn't have this problem to the same degree. So if it works on one car it might not work the same on others now will it Or is that just a little out of you league to understand. Plus if you read your warrenty it will also tell you that any work caried out by a third party will void your warrenty, Incase you don't understand that it meens go out and get pedders to fix it and if they can't fix it then your warrenty is worth jack and you got no leg to stand on legally.

[Night]

Again, the dealer has tried twice but to no avail, so if they can't get it right then what chance do pedders have. Lets all burry our heads in the sand like some other people have and pretend the problem isn't there

[EXCESSV]

look champ.it doesnt matter whether or not it is a vt or vx, series 1or series 2.
some have the problem some have not.
and those that do differs in how bad it chews tyres.
MOST times a camber kit will fix it.....but there are sometimes that it doesnt

there is a lot of huff and puff on this issue and people need to realise this is only happening to SOME cars no matte the model or series.

[Garth]

it affects the vt and vx series, any car with fe2, cause the rear rides low, they need to replace the camber kit (cause it's destroyed) 1 or 2 shockys, depending on dammage, and lift the arse up a little bit. all in all should cost no-more than 800 big ones, if you wanna avoid the problem, get a non fe2 one, and then get fe2 put on afterwards by the like of pedders of midas, they can sort the issue out, nice and easily.

[HSVKEV260R8]

OK, looks like it is time to remove some doubts and myths from this thread, first, VT's and VX1's had the problem regardless of options. VX2 onwards had fully adjustable (to a certain extent) camber. If you do get a VT or VX1 and are willing to spend some money, Pedder will fit A:- A Camber Kit B:- Poly Airbags (only suitable for non lowered cars). These items were fitted to my VT1 Exec in 2000 and from that time forward until I sold it in 2004, it never chewed a tyre ever again. Now with the very large price difference between a VT1 and a VX2, I would not even hesitate to look for a VT1 with low km's and get Pedders to do their best with the rear end. If you are handy with the mechanics of your cars, the Poly-Airbags can be fitted in about 2 hrs at home, while I would never recommend home fitting the camber kit. This is best left to Pedders as they include a 4 wheel alignment into the fitting charge. Alternatively, if you really want to lower your VX, make sure it is no less than a VX2, the adjustable camber will allow a moderate lowering without compromising on tyre wear.

[gopher]

anyone have a picture of these modifications?
so i can compare them to my car to see if it has been modified already because i have a 1998 series 1 vt acclaim which we bought about 5 years ago & we seem to get between 20000 & 30000ks from a set of tyres which while not perfect is satisfactory

[VT-565]

just have to say, the first commodore with an IRS option was the VL Aero. I said option too....as for what these mods look like, have a look at the bush where the lower control arm mounts to the car body. if you can see some slots cut into the steel part of the bush and the centre line of the control arm clevis is offset to the bush bolt, good chance you have the camber correction kit. I must say though that i have a series 1 VT and have NEVER had a problem with premature tyre wear. i am glad i didn't listen to numerous people when i was in the process of buying, because i am completely happy with it, over 3 years down the track. i am not saying that the problem does not or did not exist, simply it doesnt affect every car. the people with problems must have bought the friday made cars......oh, how australian

[gopher]

the people with problems must have bought the friday made cars......oh, how australian

or even worse a monday morning car

[VtBerlina_3800]

My vt is a series one and has the same problem, got told i need a camber kit to fix it...

[VT-565]

My vt is a series one and has the same problem, got told i need a camber kit to fix it...

i have a pedders camber kit in mine and it works quite well. it still looks like there is a fair bit of neg. camber on the rear, but tyre problems are near non-existent. but i am throwing ideas around about getting a series 2 VX rear end and putting that in, as i plan to put an airbag kit in so i feel the extra adjustment would come in handy.

[cuckoo]

isn't it strange i have a vt series 1 intercooled calais i have had no problem with excessive wear well not the wear you's are talking about
Cuckoo

[VTSSDUDE]

Sounds like you are one of the lucky ones.
I only bought my VT not long ago, (2 months) I am hoping I haven't got this problem either!

[VtBerlina_3800]

my rear wheels have about a 10 mm slant, me and my mate were looking at it last night. ill take some photos today sometime. and post them to show you what i mean

[SUPERV6]

My VT1 with FE2 was never too bad...although the worst wear was always on the left hand rear tyre. During several routine wheel alignments the guys doing the job mentioned that mine was "quite good" as far as build tolerance as they said some were terrible and were a real problem to correct. In general owners of FE2 equiped cars have less problems as the suspension is stiffer and sits firmer resisting bottoming out or sagging when loaded. I did fit a camber/toe kit to mine whilst it still had FE2 and this really helped mine and you could say it was almost perfect. Since fitting superlow springs it has returned the car back to its factory FE2 wear characteristics (perhaps slightly worse ) and I need to rotate wheels front to back to keep things kind of even. Eventually I will need to demount tyres and flip them to get the most out of them.

Everyone needs to remember its not the camber that is the real problem....Its the TOE that causes the scrubbing problem and the IRS negative camber concentrates the scrubbing to the inside edge of the tyre. Fix the TOE and you are well on the way to solving the inside edge wear issues.

[Hairy Eater]

drilled holes???? can you futher explain where these holes are drilled to lift up the suspension???... body or suspension arms???..

[Slick6]

My VT 's' had the FE2 which I removed and installed Koni shocks and Lovells super lows. At the same time I put a camber kit on. I have done close to 30,000kms on my soft 17's and they are wearing almost flat..

Definitly recommend a camber kit to be installed and regular alighnments and tyre changes..

[minux]

Thats the point, every car doesn't have this problem to the same degree. So if it works on one car it might not work the same on others now will it Or is that just a little out of you league to understand. Plus if you read your warrenty it will also tell you that any work caried out by a third party will void your warrenty, Incase you don't understand that it meens go out and get pedders to fix it and if they can't fix it then your warrenty is worth jack and you got no leg to stand on legally.

Actually whe yur dealer reccomends you use an aftermarket supplier your warranty isnt void. As my partners wasnt