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    Recently had a 98 VT Wagon repaired after an accident and during the repair, all the Brake lines that run from the ABS unit to the rear wheels had to be replaced. Holden could not supply one of the Brake Lines (NLA), so the repairer had a brake company make a replacement. It looks to be made of Copper :b:
    I thought Copper pipes were illegal per ADR rules.
    According to the RTA Technical advice dept., they say its undesireable to use copper if the tube is subject to vibration and has to be clamped every 15 cm's. In other words, its not illegal but not good either!
    Is this right?
    Why don't Holden have available spares for 98 models?
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    might have a copper coating on the actual metal underneath because i doubt a brake company will sell you illegal parts

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    Not 100% sure, but i am under the impression that anyone who sells a new item in australia must make spare parts available for a period of ten years. Holden should definately still have this part available for you! Check with another dealer. I would be a little worried if we couldn't get a spare part from holden for a 8 year old car

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    Quote Originally Posted by boona15
    might have a copper coating on the actual metal underneath because i doubt a brake company will sell you illegal parts
    Spot on Boona. Its copper coated for corrosion resistance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mungus
    Not 100% sure, but i am under the impression that anyone who sells a new item in australia must make spare parts available for a period of ten years. Holden should definately still have this part available for you! Check with another dealer. I would be a little worried if we couldn't get a spare part from holden for a 8 year old car
    I inquired about this 10 years worth of parts issue as I am having trouble getting my 1999 Vectra repaired because of engine parts.
    It seems that the having 10 years worth of parts is a gentlemans agreement and there is no legislation to enforce it. This info from the Motor Traders Association. The only thing that will force the supply of parts at the moment is the warranty period (last vehicle supplied for a given model would have to have parts to make the end of the warranty) and or bad publicity.
    Brake lines.
    Using copper limits the pressure that can be used and it work hardens which is why it must be supported at closer intervals to prevent vibration. Steel tubing can be bought and most good quality tube flaring tools are capable of flaring steel. There are different methods of manufacturing steel tubing and this you would need to investigate properly to see if the type you purchase can be flared without the seam splitting. I would say that the copper tubing was used because they didn't have anything else at the time.

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