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    Mine has a slip of paper with the manual, that lists all the options from the dealership.

    The LSD may have been different for the vx and thats why they gave away the ones that fit straight into vts. bit of a stretch i know.

    other runnouts don't seem offer a lsd, but i can't recall of the vt to vx interchange...

    I don't mind if that is what happened as that means there are more lsd out there sitting a a wreckers somewhere to go into my car!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1991_Vn2nV View Post
    The difference between a VT and VX 0-100 is about 0.1 seconds, so even if it did have the VX running gear..Its still not a race car The feel of a VT is quite different to a VP though.

    This end of VTII runout thing doesnt seem very logical. Does anyone here actually watch the run out specials on tv as a guide? FIRST thing they generally add... Are alloys. The Berlina as an example had 17" alloys as an option, late series 2 models didnt get 17" alloys as standard. Now when was the last time you saw a runout special add LSD to the list?

    LSD is an EXPENSIVE extra to add as are other things. What do you think $3500 gets you in a run out special? In an Equipe that $3500 got you air conditioning, 16" alloy wheels, cruise control, CD player, power windows, and power antenna. Or $4500 in an Olympic edition got you an auto trans, air conditioning, power windows, 15-inch alloy wheels, bumper inserts, body side mouldings with chrome inserts, chrome exhaust extension, single CD, power antenna, cruise control, unique interior trim.

    Slick_Get_Away, why dont you check your compliance plate? If it was fitted with FE2 it will say so. Or jack up the rear and spin a wheel, check if its LSD.
    This is what makes it weird, On the same patch of road i can get the VT to kickdown and hit 2nd gear to about 90kp/h, With the VP it kicks down faster no electrics telling it what to do, But i can grab about 100kp/h.. But with the VT i start later but i until i get it on the road and down to my 0-100 track.. I wont know 100% if it's faster..
    The VP has great power still and i keep it in as best running order as i can it carries some added weight which wouldn't help.

    Knowing Holden they just sometimes toss things in, Like VZ SV6 had option LSD, Then in 05 it was standard.. I also remember holden tossing some ecotec engines into some VR's, And adding IRS into VP Executives, There shifty

    Mine has 16" Calais VT1 rims, But for all i know they could have been tossed on after it's accident, Which i hope did happen cause they were bald at the rear..

    Compliance plate says standard suspension, But could it be dealer fitted?.
    I'll have to do that jack it up when i get it off the grass..
    If the wheel spins in the opposite way your spinning the wheel it's not LSD?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick_Get_Away View Post
    I also remember holden tossing some ecotec engines into some VR's,


    If the wheel spins in the opposite way your spinning the wheel it's not LSD?.
    id like to see that, the vs's look the same as vr's but had an ecotec, i highly doubt they would have stuck ecotecs in vr's but id like to see a pic,

    if both wheels spin the same direction you have lsd,
    if they turn opposites you have an open wheeler


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick_Get_Away View Post
    This is what makes it weird, On the same patch of road i can get the VT to kickdown and hit 2nd gear to about 90kp/h, With the VP it kicks down faster no electrics telling it what to do, But i can grab about 100kp/h.. But with the VT i start later but i until i get it on the road and down to my 0-100 track.. I wont know 100% if it's faster..
    The VP has great power still and i keep it in as best running order as i can it carries some added weight which wouldn't help.

    Knowing Holden they just sometimes toss things in, Like VZ SV6 had option LSD, Then in 05 it was standard.. I also remember holden tossing some ecotec engines into some VR's, And adding IRS into VP Executives, There shifty

    Mine has 16" Calais VT1 rims, But for all i know they could have been tossed on after it's accident, Which i hope did happen cause they were bald at the rear..

    Compliance plate says standard suspension, But could it be dealer fitted?.
    I'll have to do that jack it up when i get it off the grass..
    If the wheel spins in the opposite way your spinning the wheel it's not LSD?.
    Same way is LSD. It could be dealer fitted, black springs are definitely factory Holden springs and your car looks FE2 height.

    I think maybe IRS was offered as an option in the Series 2 VP's along with ABS. But no VR's got ecotecs, any VR with an ecotec is aftermarket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyman View Post
    id like to see that, the vs's look the same as vr's but had an ecotec, i highly doubt they would have stuck ecotecs in vr's but id like to see a pic,

    if both wheels spin the same direction you have lsd,
    if they turn opposites you have an open wheeler
    I got halfway under the car but i didn't get the wheels off the deck, I tried to take a pic of the diff label but it's pretty messy, i can just make out 3.08.1 and just before that is something but i'll have to clean it up..
    Easiest way will be jack it up or wait till i get some new rubber and spin it.
    Quote Originally Posted by 1991_Vn2nV View Post
    Same way is LSD. It could be dealer fitted, black springs are definitely factory Holden springs and your car looks FE2 height.

    I think maybe IRS was offered as an option in the Series 2 VP's along with ABS. But no VR's got ecotecs, any VR with an ecotec is aftermarket.
    The springs looked well lived in about the age of the car from having a little look under it.. Shocks are black i think they all were like the springs as you said.

    I sat behind a VP Exec once and he was bouncing the rear up and down like i just did with the VT, Got me thinking since it wasn't a V8. I wish i had ABS on the VP would have saved me crashing.

    I have seen a VR with Ecotec motor from the factory, But perhaps you guys would be better off speaking with GreenFoam on this i think he knows of it also.
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    perhaps they say the VT V6 is the "worst" for performance because it is heavier than the VS yet still uses the same engine, and more importantly, cable throttle. Does the VX use the electronic throttle (accelerator)? I know my parent's VY Berlina uses one, and it's a seriously noticeable difference in acceleration. Their Berlina is still the V6 Ecotec, just with the VY differences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s_ikari2015 View Post
    perhaps they say the VT V6 is the "worst" for performance because it is heavier than the VS yet still uses the same engine, and more importantly, cable throttle. Does the VX use the electronic throttle (accelerator)? I know my parent's VY Berlina uses one, and it's a seriously noticeable difference in acceleration. Their Berlina is still the V6 Ecotec, just with the VY differences.
    vx has cable throttle and vy's with the ecotec has cable throttle, electrical throttle was brought out on the vz's with the alloytec, for v6's gen 3 may have had electric throttle on the vy


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    Quote Originally Posted by s_ikari2015 View Post
    perhaps they say the VT V6 is the "worst" for performance because it is heavier than the VS yet still uses the same engine, and more importantly, cable throttle. Does the VX use the electronic throttle (accelerator)? I know my parent's VY Berlina uses one, and it's a seriously noticeable difference in acceleration. Their Berlina is still the V6 Ecotec, just with the VY differences.
    Thats exactly right. Its exact same engine as the VS, but 200kg heavier. VT series 2 is 40kg lighter, and VX is lighter than VT and power was boosted to 152kw with improved torque as well.

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    You know it always bugs me about the VS, This might only be the first series,
    Once when we hired one back in 95-96 i did a u-turn and floored it hard but until it was almost straight it didn't accelerate, Same with take off at the lights they have always seemed flat, Maybe it's just in Auto's?.
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    My series 2 VS would have clouded itself in smoke if I floored it during a U Turn

    The auto's since the VR are shocking though. Thats the problem with an electronic box over a hydraulic box, they're simply not as quick to react. In the VN I stomp it and its instant, every electronic box i've driven theres a delay. Its not just Holdens, its fords as well and my subaru too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1991_Vn2nV View Post
    My series 2 VS would have clouded itself in smoke if I floored it during a U Turn

    The auto's since the VR are shocking though. Thats the problem with an electronic box over a hydraulic box, they're simply not as quick to react. In the VN I stomp it and its instant, every electronic box i've driven theres a delay. Its not just Holdens, its fords as well and my subaru too.
    Hell yeah have to agree with you more then 100% on that..
    My VT is slack for kickdown's it moves a good 5kp/h before dropping down.. I'm going to find out if i can speed it up get it reprogrammed or something,
    When i wont fun in the VP stomp it @ anything under 50 and woohoo, VT I'll roll a kebab first.

    My brother BA was the same to very delayed maybe they don't want us having fun like we do in our Buick v6's .
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    The electric auto's are still good, corvette servo and booster valves make it shift instantly. I had a Stage 2 shift kit in me VR. Great mod, but got sick of the harsh shift between 1st & 2nd after a year. You can still get the trans to shift quickly without car jolting. My bro had his trans done, but not sure what they did differently.
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    Did they alter the gearbox or programming in any way between the VT-VX and VY?
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