King Springs Sizes

[johnvtls1]

Hey guys just looking at getting some springs for the rear of my vt ss. And ive found a set on ebay that are supposed to be superlows. Now does this me there SL? or SSL or SSSL?? any help would be great. Also just wondering would the series 2 ss be IRS? thanks

[Rishy]

vt onwards have IRS. Do you mean does SL mean superlow?

[johnvtls1]

yeh cos on ebay he its advertised as king springs superlows. now im just wondering wat size that actully is SL or SSL? if u know wat i mean

[Rishy]

well im pretty sure SL=superlows, SSL=super superlows and so on.

[1991_Vn2nV]

Hey guys just looking at getting some springs for the rear of my vt ss. And ive found a set on ebay that are supposed to be superlows. Now does this me there SL? or SSL or SSSL?? any help would be great. Also just wondering would the series 2 ss be IRS? thanks

Part numbers for VT-VZ V8 Superlows:
98-05 COMMODORE SEDAN VT VX VY VZ V8 S/LOW
Front: KHFL-47HD#
Rear: KHRL-46HD

There are SSL springs which are Extra Super Low:
Front: KHFL-47SSL (Lowest front springs available - No ultralow fronts from VR onwards in the King Spring Range)
Rear: KHRL-46SSL

There are SSSL which are Ultra Low (but only for Rear):
Rear: KHRL-46SSSL

[EvoVIIIJDM]

There are SSL springs which are Extra Super Low:
Front: KHFL-47SSL


There are SSSL which are Ultra Low (but only for Rear):
Rear: KHRL-46SSSL

You want these codes.

[johnvtls1]

yeh the code ive got on ebay is Rear: KHRL-46HD
anyone know how that would look?? im looking for no gap but not too much tuck over the wheel.

Also cheers for the codes very helpfull

[Wagon_Wheel]

You will still have at least an inch gap between the guard and tyre with superlows.
Ive seen SSL's in VT's plenty of times, and seems to look the goods
But if you want tuckage go the SSSL's

[johnvtls1]

You will still have at least an inch gap between the guard and tyre with superlows.
Ive seen SSL's in VT's plenty of times, and seems to look the goods
But if you want tuckage go the SSSL's

ah yeh thats gay. thats for that man much appericiated.
probably wont get em then

[1991_Vn2nV]

The KHRL-46HD's will lower the car approximately 50-60mm from factory height. But being SS you'd have FE2, so it would be less than that again.

[Wagon_Wheel]

Yeah king springs state that it will lower the car 50-60mm, but its a crock of ****, ive seen so many cars with SL's and they have only gone 30-40 or so, not low at all, still heaps of gap.
Ive also seen a car that had FE2's put SL's, almost no difference at all.
Was in a VS though so not sure how a VT would go.

[1991_Vn2nV]

Yeah king springs state that it will lower the car 50-60mm, but its a crock of ****, ive seen so many cars with SL's and they have only gone 30-40 or so, not low at all, still heaps of gap.
Ive also seen a car that had FE2's put SL's, almost no difference at all.
Was in a VS though so not sure how a VT would go.

Every car and every set of springs are different. I've seen some cars sit very high with superlows, others like mine sat much lower on the same springs. It is a fairly accurate rough guide to how far they will drop though, and don't forget they do need to settle in.

[johnvtls1]

hey just wondering will ute springs fit in a sedan at all?

[bezz]

whats the lowest you could go with king springs without being defectable (or at least obviously defectable)

[Wagon_Wheel]

Ute springs are the same, BUT, they will sit higher than sedan springs will, as they are a heavier load spring to cope with a fully loaded ute.

[1991_Vn2nV]

whats the lowest you could go with king springs without being defectable (or at least obviously defectable)

In SA, superlows pretty much. Its hard to say, I run ultralow fronts and they're legal, yet my ultralow rears got defected...Then my superlow rears got defected so I had to have larger upper spring seat bushes put in to raise it by another 10mm.

Elsewhere in Aus with the 100mm rule only, it depends on bodykits and what not but you could pretty much get away with ultralows.

[1991_Vn2nV]

Bezz, here are the minimum legal eyebrow heights for a VT in SA:
Front: 357(E)
Rear: 334(E)

If you're looking at purchasing springs, most spring places can match those heights to the closest legal set of King Springs for you (I suggest SA Suspension Centre).

[bezz]

Bezz, here are the minimum legal eyebrow heights for a VT in SA:
Front: 357(E)
Rear: 334(E)

If you're looking at purchasing springs, most spring places can match those heights to the closest legal set of King Springs for you (I suggest SA Suspension Centre).

ah cheers for the info dude much appreciated!

[dzire]

In SA, superlows pretty much. Its hard to say, I run ultralow fronts and they're legal, yet my ultralow rears got defected...Then my superlow rears got defected so I had to have larger upper spring seat bushes put in to raise it by another 10mm.

Elsewhere in Aus with the 100mm rule only, it depends on bodykits and what not but you could pretty much get away with ultralows.

I heard somewhere that in QLD any point on your vehicle lower than a coke can standing up is defectable? I'll double check when I'm at work tomorrow though.

[1991_Vn2nV]

I heard somewhere that in QLD any point on your vehicle lower than a coke can standing up is defectable? I'll double check when I'm at work tomorrow though.

Thats just something a few ricers that don't know jack **** like to say cause they want to pretend their hyundai is fully sick.

A coke can is like 130mm or 140mm. Legally, you need 100mm clearance. So it is not even close to being true.

For the record, ground clearance from factory on a VX commodore is 150mm for sedan, 153mm for wagon.

[Jesterarts]

In SA, superlows pretty much. Its hard to say, I run ultralow fronts and they're legal, yet my ultralow rears got defected...Then my superlow rears got defected so I had to have larger upper spring seat bushes put in to raise it by another 10mm.

Elsewhere in Aus with the 100mm rule only, it depends on bodykits and what not but you could pretty much get away with ultralows.

Could get away with ultralows.... ARGH HAHAHAHAHA :ROFL: hahahaha... that is hilarious!!! lol

SL is about as low as you can go and get away with it... SSL your gonna be on the boarder so it will depend if your a smartarse to the copper or not basically...

ultra low (SSSL) not even close to getting away with anything...

I had SSSL in the rear and only SL in the front... car sat dead flat to the ground... and i had a grand total of about 75mm clearance @ the cat...

Also... with SSSL if you break down no tow truck will pick you up. can't even get a trolley jack under the car without first jacking the car up with the normal jack first... (If you have a SS bodykit)

PLUS with SSSL you don't retain two thirds of suspension travel and therefore thats a defect straight out even before they start measuring anything...

[johnvtls1]

PLUS with SSSL you don't retain two thirds of suspension travel and therefore thats a defect straight out even before they start measuring anything...[/QUOTE]

oh thats gay. i just picked up sssl rear and sl fronts. its it really that low?

[Sabbath']

On my SS the back suspension looks way higher than the front. What are the legalities as far as putting lower springs in the rear only?

SSL's im thinking (thats the next level down?) and would the shockers have to be changed?

[1991_Vn2nV]

Could get away with ultralows.... ARGH HAHAHAHAHA :ROFL: hahahaha... that is hilarious!!! lol

SL is about as low as you can go and get away with it... SSL your gonna be on the boarder so it will depend if your a smartarse to the copper or not basically...

ultra low (SSSL) not even close to getting away with anything...

I had SSSL in the rear and only SL in the front... car sat dead flat to the ground... and i had a grand total of about 75mm clearance @ the cat...

Also... with SSSL if you break down no tow truck will pick you up. can't even get a trolley jack under the car without first jacking the car up with the normal jack first... (If you have a SS bodykit)

PLUS with SSSL you don't retain two thirds of suspension travel and therefore thats a defect straight out even before they start measuring anything...

Are you sure it doesnt allow enough suspension travel? The vehicle manufacturers minimum reccomendation is equivalent to what you would call 'SL' but are in fact 'HD'. For VT-VZ sedans there are no rear SL springs, it goes HD, SSL, SSSL. HD is equivalent to HSV stock ride height, with SSL being the next step down. SSSL is another 15mm lower than that. As far as I am aware, it is not 2/3 travel for your exact car... But the vehicle manufacturers minimum reccomendations for that model which makes a big difference.

If you only had 75mm clearance, you got problems mate. Does the cat hang lower than the factory one did? The SSSL springs are not as low as you seem to make out, there should only be 15mm difference between KHRL-46SSL and KHRL-46SSSL.

And plenty of cars can't get a trolley jack under... I have NEVER been able to get one under my car

[1991_Vn2nV]

oh thats gay. i just picked up sssl rear and sl fronts. its it really that low?

On my SS the back suspension looks way higher than the front. What are the legalities as far as putting lower springs in the rear only?

SSL's im thinking (thats the next level down?) and would the shockers have to be changed?

To both the above, that is illegal. ADR's state that "the original relationship between the front and rear suspension heights must not be unduly affected". So matching springs pretty much.