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    Default so i only took it in for a service....

    hey guys,
    i just got my vx back from the shop tday, 145 on the clock
    and the mechanic 'noticed' a few things.
    i only paid him to do the service and new oil,/filter etc.
    buttttt

    he said these things needed doing,
    -cooling system service
    -carbon clean injectors and upper cylinder every 40k
    -power steering rack leaking slightly
    -L+Rh shocks leaking slightly
    -DIFF OIL NEEDS CHANGING
    -CODES 1361, 0342, 0173
    -possible worn lifter

    now,

    1.how hard is the cooling system 'service' to do?
    and what does it involve?
    2.same question for injectors
    3.how much is diff oil? and how would i go about changing it myself?
    is it hard?
    4.wtF are these codes?
    5.wtF is a lifter.

    im still learning,
    so if anyone could help us out tht wud be choice.
    cheers

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    By cooling system "service" it hink he means a flush, that's not hard to do.

    Power steering rack you might want to get another opinion, if it's leaking badly, get it replaced.

    Shocks, get them replaced if they are leaking. You don't want your shocks bumming out on you when you are driving. It's hell gay.

    Definantly get the diff oil changed.

    Not sure about the codes.

    Worn lifter or is it just sticky?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobez View Post
    By cooling system "service" it hink he means a flush, that's not hard to do.

    Power steering rack you might want to get another opinion, if it's leaking badly, get it replaced.

    Shocks, get them replaced if they are leaking. You don't want your shocks bumming out on you when you are driving. It's hell gay.

    Definantly get the diff oil changed.

    Not sure about the codes.

    Worn lifter or is it just sticky?
    cheers mate, uhhh im not sure it says possible worn lifter.
    thats all ive got..
    is there somehwre i can look that tells you how to flush cooling syst. etc?
    and is it possibly to change the diff oil yourself?

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    I suggest you get yourself a Gregory's manual fro your car and learn to do things for yourself. It's amazing how much money you'll save. All you need is a decent set of tools including sockets, spanners, screwdrivers, pliers etc and within 2 or 3 services those tools will have paid for themselves.
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    Power steering rack leaks are common on the VT/VX . If its not too bad you might be able to get away with using an additive .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobez View Post
    Shocks, get them replaced if they are leaking. You don't want your shocks bumming out on you when you are driving. It's hell gay.
    My rear shocks have been leaking for a while now. Last time I was at bridgestone the manager (whom I trust) told me there is nothing to worry about.

    Reason I trust the bridgestone manager was because he saved me $3k. My steering was wobbling at 100km/h and was steering left. Pedders Suspension said it would cost over $3000 to fix. The manager at Bridgestone took the car for a whole day, tested it and put brand new tyres on. It still didnt help so he took the tyres off and charged me $0 for his time. I even offered to pay him and he refused.

    A few months later I still had the problem but I needed new tyres. Instead of selling me 4 (which I was prepared to pay for) I came back and collected the car and he only charged me for 2 because he says the others still had life in them. Also the wheel alignment [for $35] bridgestone did on my car fixed the so called $3000 issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjamino View Post
    hey guys,

    -CODES 1361, 0342, 0173
    what the heck? didnt think the codes went above 100

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymousmoose View Post
    My rear shocks have been leaking for a while now. Last time I was at bridgestone the manager (whom I trust) told me there is nothing to worry about.

    Reason I trust the bridgestone manager was because he saved me $3k. My steering was wobbling at 100km/h and was steering left. Pedders Suspension said it would cost over $3000 to fix. The manager at Bridgestone took the car for a whole day, tested it and put brand new tyres on. It still didnt help so he took the tyres off and charged me $0 for his time. I even offered to pay him and he refused.

    A few months later I still had the problem but I needed new tyres. Instead of selling me 4 (which I was prepared to pay for) I came back and collected the car and he only charged me for 2 because he says the others still had life in them. Also the wheel alignment [for $35] bridgestone did on my car fixed the so called $3000 issue.
    If your rear shockers are leaking then they will eventually lose all fluid making them useless so to say not to worry about them is a bit far fetched. Get them replaced as it's better to be safe than sorry. The last thing you want is for your shockers to contribute towards you not avoiding an accident. Plus it's annoying finding fluid on your driveway all the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holdens Rule View Post
    If your rear shockers are leaking then they will eventually lose all fluid making them useless so to say not to worry about them is a bit far fetched. Get them replaced as it's better to be safe than sorry. The last thing you want is for your shockers to contribute towards you not avoiding an accident. Plus it's annoying finding fluid on your driveway all the time
    I guess thats the difference. They are leaking but not enough to drip on my driveway. Should I be ok then?

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    i would replace before complete failure, that's just me, but i wouldn't want something to happen. better safe then sorry.

    one of my rear shocks was "rubbing" on the shock cover shield (the outside sleeve) and making a noise, so i bought brand new ones, old ones were still good just the noise annoying the hell out of me.

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    rear shocks cost nothink to get replaced fi you find someone good onli cost me i think 180 including fitting i waited til i got my car lowered tho cos i needed the short shocks , 145 on clock definaterly woudlnt worry bout the steering rack iv heard they basically weep not long out the factory and after a while that weeping looks like more of a leak becuase it dries on there id go get yourself some of that lucas power steering stop leak think it was someoine on here that told me to do it when mine got a tiny bit worse it now never has a loss in powere steering fluid just kept topping it up with that stuff for a week or 2 hardly used any of it and hasnt leaked since im sure there other people that have used that same stuff in theres btw mine has 210 on the clock and before someone starts ripping into me about additives i no most do more harm than good and that engine stop leak etc will never fix a main seal or even help etc but for the power steering that lucas stuff seems to work

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymousmoose View Post
    My rear shocks have been leaking for a while now. Last time I was at bridgestone the manager (whom I trust) told me there is nothing to worry about.

    Reason I trust the bridgestone manager was because he saved me $3k. My steering was wobbling at 100km/h and was steering left. Pedders Suspension said it would cost over $3000 to fix. The manager at Bridgestone took the car for a whole day, tested it and put brand new tyres on. It still didnt help so he took the tyres off and charged me $0 for his time. I even offered to pay him and he refused.

    A few months later I still had the problem but I needed new tyres. Instead of selling me 4 (which I was prepared to pay for) I came back and collected the car and he only charged me for 2 because he says the others still had life in them. Also the wheel alignment [for $35] bridgestone did on my car fixed the so called $3000 issue.
    Which bridgestone is that??

    I would crave that kind of service.

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    For sure replace them, as many have said they are not dear and are an easy job. Believe me when they get completely stuffed your car will feel like crap to drive and you don't want that if your trying to avoid someone on the road.

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    the diff oil is easy, you will need 2 litres, 2x 1L bottle with the long squeezy kneck on them makes it easier. if its lsd use castrol SAF-XA if its single spinner use castrol LSX90 or SAF-XA


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    Get your power steering fixed ASAP!
    i kept going with mine when my mechanic said that the only reason that it kept cutting out was because it was 'over-heating'.
    This turned out to be a load of S*** and eventually i lost all power steering.
    its about $300 for a new power steering pump, so its worth trying to get the old on working properly.

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    0173 V6 PCM Short Term Fuel Trim Delta High
    • Lean or faulty injector(s) on one side of the engine.
    • Cracked or fouled spark plug(s).
    • Exhaust or inlet manifold leak.
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    have had my steering rack leak with gusto on my old magna, i mustve spent 5 bucks a day topping it up with PS fluid, not to mention the mess it left every time you turned the wheel, and the noise every time it ran dry, just get it replaced for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobez View Post
    Exactly what he said. Gregory's manual FTW!!
    heh..... If the VT/X one is anything like the VP one it's one and only use should be to start a fire. Terrible document and should never have been published.

    Gen Holden service manuals FTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymousmoose View Post
    My rear shocks have been leaking for a while now. Last time I was at bridgestone the manager (whom I trust) told me there is nothing to worry about.

    Reason I trust the bridgestone manager was because he saved me $3k. My steering was wobbling at 100km/h and was steering left. Pedders Suspension said it would cost over $3000 to fix. The manager at Bridgestone took the car for a whole day, tested it and put brand new tyres on. It still didnt help so he took the tyres off and charged me $0 for his time. I even offered to pay him and he refused.

    A few months later I still had the problem but I needed new tyres. Instead of selling me 4 (which I was prepared to pay for) I came back and collected the car and he only charged me for 2 because he says the others still had life in them. Also the wheel alignment [for $35] bridgestone did on my car fixed the so called $3000 issue.
    Thats nice. I'd side with cobes on the shocks though. The shock fluid is what makes it work. If it is leaking it will not provide the correct bump and rebound and given enough time fail completely. This will manifest itself in poor braking performance. Handling and road holding will be terrible. Please don't drive your car anywhere near me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjamino View Post
    hey guys,
    i just got my vx back from the shop tday, 145 on the clock
    and the mechanic 'noticed' a few things.
    i only paid him to do the service and new oil,/filter etc.
    buttttt

    he said these things needed doing,
    -cooling system service
    -carbon clean injectors and upper cylinder every 40k
    -power steering rack leaking slightly
    -L+Rh shocks leaking slightly
    -DIFF OIL NEEDS CHANGING
    -CODES 1361, 0342, 0173
    -possible worn lifter

    now,

    1.how hard is the cooling system 'service' to do?
    and what does it involve?
    2.same question for injectors
    3.how much is diff oil? and how would i go about changing it myself?
    is it hard?
    4.wtF are these codes?
    5.wtF is a lifter.

    im still learning,
    so if anyone could help us out tht wud be choice.
    cheers
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    Cooling System Service, it says in my trusty gregory's manual very easy to do all it is, is a change in the coolant with an engine flush at the same time, nothing too drastic.
    Injector and Carby Service...
    Simple all i do for this is buy a cheap 20 dollar fuel injector cleaner (i think u can pick up wynn's fuel injector cleaner for about 10 dollars) and run that through with a tank of petty...
    Diff Oil.
    you need to get the diff oil from sprint auto parts or your local repco, you need an oil gun and at the back of the diff there is a drain plug and a filler plug find them.....
    very hard to change diff oil if you do not have an oil gun (recomend purchasing one)
    Codes
    1361 no idea
    0342 cam shaft position sensor circuit low out put
    0173 no idea (somewhere between system running to rich and system running to lean.
    power steering racks leak. mine does
    suspension in commodore VT and VX is nutorious for weaping ....

    a lifter is what makes your camshaft stay in sync (i think dont quote me on this) your lifters wear out and thats when we start having problems with compression and starting the car ..
    i would recomend taking it into a different mechanic for a better diagnostic unless you took it to a holden dealer they are normally spot on with diagnostics but judging by the error codes its not a holden dealer

    P.S
    this advice is not from a mechanic, i am going on what i can see in my gregory's service and repair manual.... please consider taking your vehicle to a mechanic or purchasing a service and repair manual for your vehicle before commencing work.
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    here is a how too for a vz diff fluid change but im pretty sure the diffs are same in vt (would check but wife has taken vt too work)

    How To: Changing Differential Oil (VZ)

    here is a how too for a coolant flush and change, it was done on a vs so they use the same engine

    How To Flush A V6 Cooling System
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