What is involed in removing entire aircon from my VT

[SMIT]

Hey guys,
I need to remove my air con from my car, what exactly is involved in removing the system?
Do i need to release gas from somewhere before i start removing it? and what exactly can i remove? are the demisters and heater seperate from the air con or are they the same system (if i remove one to the rest go with it?)

What about the compressor on the engine also can i remove that?

Is there any legalities i need to know?

The reason im doing this is because its getting in the way of my new setup, some air con canister (?) is right up again the external gate (see pic), and that thing gets mega hot.

[axemurderer101]

take it to a pro to get it removed cause it needs to be professionaly de-gased

[SMIT]

What is exactly is professionally degassing? as i would prefer to do it myself/ Save money.

[alloytech32]

Hey guys,
I need to remove my air con from my car, what exactly is involved in removing the system?
Do i need to release gas from somewhere before i start removing it? and what exactly can i remove? are the demisters and heater seperate from the air con or are they the same system (if i remove one to the rest go with it?)

What about the compressor on the engine also can i remove that?

Is there any legalities i need to know?

The reason im doing this is because its getting in the way of my new setup, some air con canister (?) is right up again the external gate (see pic), and that thing gets mega hot.

the only legalities would be you cant just let the gas go into the atmosphere, you need the proper reclamation gear only a registered air conditioning specialist/mechanic would have. (although a lot of people will just let it go, i'll leave it up to you)

If the a/c compressor runs on its own belt, not around alternator etc it can be removed,other wise try and get a smaller belt. you can then remove all lines back to the firewall, and even the condenser in front of the radiator as it wont be used. that canister can be removed and is a type of accumulator (stores oil to help lubricate compressor). there's no need to remove the evaporator box (which contains heater core and evaporator core etc under your dash.)

[alloytech32]

What is exactly is professionally degassing? as i would prefer to do it myself/ Save money.

letting the gas go into the atmosphere contributes to global warming

[SMIT]

letting the gas go into the atmosphere contributes to global warming

I knew someone was gunna say it....

[SMIT]

there's no need to remove the evaporator box (which contains heater core and evaporator core etc under your dash.)

OK thanks, will it be used though at all? if not i might as well remove it.

[alloytech32]

OK thanks, will it be used though at all? if not i might as well remove it.

well your heater core is in it so if you remove it you wont have a heater and you will have to block off your coolant heater hoses in the engine bay. havnt removed a vt evaporator box before but gennerally your blower fan for your vents is all apart of the evaporator. so if you can do without all that you'll be right!

curious, what motor have you got in it?

[alloytech32]

I knew someone was gunna say it....

haha yea the greenies dont like it....

[Ozzie]

An easier option is to remove the turbo and give it to someone like me

[SMIT]

well your heater core is in it so if you remove it you wont have a heater and you will have to block off your coolant heater hoses in the engine bay. havnt removed a vt evaporator box before but gennerally your blower fan for your vents is all apart of the evaporator. so if you can do without all that you'll be right!

curious, what motor have you got in it?

just an ecotec mate, just recently had it done. Still in the process of fully setting it up.

[nicko]

any greenies? out there i released a 7kg gas bottle on my driveway today lol

[commsirac]

Why dont you get an aircon specialist to put whatever is it somewhere else where it will fit, its just a matter of plumbing. Then you will still have aircon.

Release the gas yourself? All you have to do is push on the schraeder release valve....its just like a tyre valve. But this is going to be messy and dangerous, r134a poisoning and cold burns for yourself.....and easily cost you more getting medical attention than getting someone with the right gear to do it for you.

any greenies? out there i released a 7kg gas bottle on my driveway today lol

LOL?, because you are a vandal? Assuming it wasnt just compressed air!
Of course you will affect EVERYONE if you release it into the environment.....contrary to the view that only greenies live on planet earth. About the same level of disregard as taking a leak in one of our drinking water dams.

[accentstencil]

Why dont you get an aircon specialist to put whatever is it somewhere else where it will fit, its just a matter of plumbing. Then you will still have aircon

That's what I would do. It couldn't be to hard to get new hoses made up.

[tri501]

why not just get a heat blanket for the turbo. If you try and remove any part of the aircon system you will need to have the gas recovered professionally, otherwise i would wish the fine on you for stupidity and ignorance. You could only ever remove the system from the firewall forward as you still need to retain your heater core and vents to have use of the demister, which is a requirement for rego. Do the right thing and take it to a aircon place and tell them what you want to do. It should cost you less than $50 to have it recovered correctly, instead of a $5000-$10000 fine.

[Fr3ak+--]

his aircon is really ****..

prob no gas in it lol

[Tom_1569]

Release the gas yourself? All you have to do is push on the schraeder release valve....its just like a tyre valve. But this is going to be messy and dangerous, r134a poisoning and cold burns for yourself.....and easily cost you more getting medical attention than getting someone with the right gear to do it for you.

A mate released his himself. He didnt expect it to have so much pressure in it. Released it and it shot straight out all over his face and arms. He recons he ran blinded to the damn and jumped straight in. LESSON LEARNT!!!

Just get it professionaly degassed, saves injuring yourself, and if you live in town then your affecting the people around you aswell or they could report you to the EPA.

[hsvpunk]

Smit, im sure Steve (morno motors) would know where, or who can get rid of it for you.
Im keen to see your car now. with this 'new' setup.

[SMIT]

i called around today, cost around $20 to get it done professionally (?). so i guess ill do that, the problem is i just have to get it their without a tuned memcal. 400 posts (yay!)

i had a quick look and the compressor looks like it runs on the same belt as everything else? so what do i do here? remove it and just get a smaller belt? also can i remove everything except the compressor and leave that there or is that a bad idea?

[accentstencil]

You can get a shorter belt for non A/V V6, so you can remove the compressor and you will have to remove the idler pulley near the compressor. I have a shorter belt here which I bought at Supercheap when I had a VT.

[BOGANV8]

Why dont you get an aircon specialist to put whatever is it somewhere else where it will fit, its just a matter of plumbing. Then you will still have aircon.

Release the gas yourself? All you have to do is push on the schraeder release valve....its just like a tyre valve. But this is going to be messy and dangerous, r134a poisoning and cold burns for yourself.....and easily cost you more getting medical attention than getting someone with the right gear to do it for you.

LOL?, because you are a vandal? Assuming it wasnt just compressed air!
Of course you will affect EVERYONE if you release it into the environment.....contrary to the view that only greenies live on planet earth. About the same level of disregard as taking a leak in one of our drinking water dams.

When i did my Automotive A/c course bout 4-5 years aga R134a was not dangerous to the atmosphere unless things have changed.. Use to always un screw the vavle on R134a systems slowly just so it hissed out a litle bit and then come back in like 2 hrs and do the A/C service and then regas.... But this was in the days when we were also doing lots of retrofits R12- R134a..... Good old R12 nothing colder than that crap..

But like i said things may have changed since then and i have not kept up to date with it the rules and regs..

Also what happens to a car when its in a prang and the A/C system is smashed im sure it hits the atmosphere then it a big way.. Silly greenies

[vt_lover]

When i did my Automotive A/c course bout 4-5 years aga R134a was not dangerous to the atmosphere unless things have changed.. Use to always un screw the vavle on R134a systems slowly just so it hissed out a litle bit and then come back in like 2 hrs and do the A/C service and then regas.... But this was in the days when we were also doing lots of retrofits R12- R134a..... Good old R12 nothing colder than that crap..

But like i said things may have changed since then and i have not kept up to date with it the rules and regs..

Also what happens to a car when its in a prang and the A/C system is smashed im sure it hits the atmosphere then it a big way.. Silly greenies

This is why they should make that crappy "automotive a/c course" totally illegal. R134A may not have the chlorine component to kill the ozone BUT it still has a G.W.P
The only refrigerants that are ok to be released are R717 (NH3) & R744 (co2)
It takes four years to be a licensed refrigeration mechanic, yet mechanics and auto electricians can do a short course on the best way to kill the environment and do poor a/c repairs. should be stopped!

[Cursed CX8]

Hey guys,
I need to remove my air con from my car, what exactly is involved in removing the system?
Is there any legalities i need to know?

that part made me laugh. Your turbo-charging your commodore and your worried about the legalities of air con lol.. Id be more worried about the legalities of the snail

[alloytech32]

When i did my Automotive A/c course bout 4-5 years aga R134a was not dangerous to the atmosphere unless things have changed.. Use to always un screw the vavle on R134a systems slowly just so it hissed out a litle bit and then come back in like 2 hrs and do the A/C service and then regas.... But this was in the days when we were also doing lots of retrofits R12- R134a..... Good old R12 nothing colder than that crap..

But like i said things may have changed since then and i have not kept up to date with it the rules and regs..

Also what happens to a car when its in a prang and the A/C system is smashed im sure it hits the atmosphere then it a big way.. Silly greenies

unlike R12 gas, R134A refrigerant isnt an ozone depleting substance, but it still acts like a blanket in the ozone layer (global warming) along with all other pollution. if you want to be technical haha

[commsirac]

When i did my Automotive A/c course bout 4-5 years aga R134a was not dangerous to the atmosphere unless things have changed.. )

Nothing has changed in the last 4-5 years, the gwp of r134a has been known since its introduction and I dont believe it has ever been acceptable to discharge it into the atmosphere.
Where did you do your automotive ac course?