putting gas on my vt
hey peoples i have a vt 2000 vt acclaim and iam thinking of getting gas put in it as the government is giving the rebate which will only cost me afew hundred anyway i have heard if i put gas i lose my traction control feature is this true or does anyone know about that???
Your thoughts and opinions on getting gas put in to a vt cheers!!!!
Ute Finatic
Tbh, my mate has a VT and put it on gas, we didnt notice anything diff wid the traction control
Originally Posted by Shooter03
JCCC Warrnambool
I hear vt's run like crap on gas depending on the brand?
Who wants chowder?
Stupid comments, its all being said now that petrol it cheaper for a few months only, wait till it goes up again, it will be higher than before.
Go for it, the money you save you can use for other mods/upgrades etc. I have my Ecotec on it for 3 years, my brother inlaw as well on his L67 Supercharged for 3 years. Keep it tuned, electrics( leads and plugs in good shape) and your laughing.
I got my VX 2000 put on gas. Mine doesn't have traction control so I don't know the answer to that question, yet I dont see how it can affect it.
My VX runs great on Gas. If its just me and my wife in the car I don't even feel the power loss. If my car is full or I got something heavy in the boot, I feel a little loss of power. But hey, I can just switch to fuel whist I'm driving and the power is back in under 3 seconds.
Get LPG fitted... its so worth the money. I save over $1000 a year and I only fill up once every 2 weeks. If I filled up ever week like when I used to drive to work, I'd save about $2000 pa.
My VX gets 500km to a tank of gas. At 60-65c a litre, it works out to be under $50 a tank. I put $20 worth of petrol (regardless of dollars per litre) in every fortnight too just to keep the fluid going through the engine for a few minutes before I drive. The GAS fitters said its not necessary but I do it anyways.
It's worth a search as there's one very big thread in VT-VX that covers pretty much what you need to know.
supercharged intercooled
yep because if you want to spend money on mods for the engine, the best thing to do first is to change to dual fueland the other peoples comments were stupid.................
I got gas put on my VT exec last Thursday for $2,100, i havnt noticed any power difference. BUT the "check engine?" light randomly comes on. I called the ppl that fitted the system and they said it was common.. and when the 1000km server comes around they will fix it.
We getting 54 cents in melbourne lately. Traction control on mine remains on, apparently the issue comes when the LPG unit cannot feed the gas to run with the traction control, possibly causing backfires.
Pass Me A Wrench.....
its a cheap way of destroying your ECOTEC 3.8L V6...... My mate did it BIG MISTAKE!!!!
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There has been a lot of threads on this with a lot of arguments for and against. Basically if you do then get the factory mixer system as it's probably the best mixer system for it, but you will lose traction control with a mixer. The other option is svi or injection but it is over a grand dearer. You won't lose traction control and you wont really notice power loss or lose too much economy like a mixer. If your worried about power loss and you have a mixer system then you can just flick it back to petrol when you want to give it a squirt.
As for the argument that it destroys your engine all I can say is that a properly maintained system wont destroy your engine. I know heaps of guys that have gas and I know the guy that did mine and he hasn't had one engine crap itself. You might get the odd car that does but how do you know the engine wasn't on it's last legs anyway and also if one goes then are all cars on gas crap? Everyone has their own opinion on it so you will always get negative and positive feedback from people it's up to you if you want to do it or not, but in saying that if it is really as bad as some guys want you to believe then why are so many people converting cars? I've seen cars that have done over 200,000 klms on gas and never had a problem.
If you were to go to gas then maybe look at installing a upper cylinder lube kit on it, it's not that dear.
Banned
If the conversion is done properly with a mixer system then traction control should be automatically disabled when lpg is selected. It should still function when using petrol. If it is important to you to have traction control 24/7, go for the more expensive svi or lgi.
The reason for most vehicles to lose T.C with gas is that if the T.C kicks in and is on gas their is a possibility that the unburnt fuel due to the T.C. working will cause a back fire and blow up some components. Some vehicles which are common on gas like range rovers have had an after market air box made which if a back fire occurs it can actually allow the excess pressure to be dissipated through an expansion system.
I'm no authority on Holdens but this is the reason across a few brands which I do know about. Not knowing baout Holdens but in most situations you can just have the T.C. turned off with the button and if you think you might want it i.e. wet roads etc. then turn over to petrol and run the T.C. (just a thought)
Xav.
Yep if you get the factory kit it will disarm traction control on gas and you can't even turn it back on but it will come back on with petrol. Also the factory kit comes with a chip to recurve the ignition or something like that so it runs sweet. The factory kit does a few other things like not cranking the engine if you got your foot on the accelerator and if your lucky like I was you might even get a lpg light in your cluster and your fuel gauge will turn over to what you are running on so it all looks really neat. My trip computer still works too.
NowDAYS WE CAN ACTUALLY FIT good INJECTED GAS SYSTEMS FOR THE SAME PRICE AS A iMPCO FACTORY MIXER SYSTEM. i AM CURRENTLY IMPORTING INJECTION SYSTEMS MYSELF SO THERE IS NO MIDDLE MAN, IE. THE SUPPLIERS. sO i CAN OFFER lpg INJECTION FOR THE SAME PRICE AS A MIXER SYSTEM.
Goddamn caps lock. Sorry but I am not re typing.
where were you when I needed you, lol
TechJunkie
Spot on,brother.Holden EcoTec not designed to run on LPG.Takes about 3-5K to crack the heads.
Please tell me you are not serious!!!!
That is a VERY ignorant statement.
How the hell does LPG 'crack' heads????
That would have to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
Been fitting gas to Ecotecs since they came out. never had to pull heads off one of them due to the LPG. In fact I have never had to pull heads off a V6 commo engine for any cracks or headgasket EVER!!!!!
I have quite a few customers that have traveled in excess of 300,000kms on gas and still going strong.
The V6 is one hell of a tough motor. it takes a hell of alot more abuse than what LPG can throw at it.
You think if it 'cracked' heads in that small amount of time that holden would factory fit LPG????
Come on mate. Get a clue and stop posting useless dribble like that.
Biggest load of tripe I've heard all week.
There are plenty of Ecotecs out there with hundreds of thousands of kays on them, all running on LPG.
Main thing to keep your eye out on is the ignition system if you're running a mixer-based system. Spark plug electrode gap should be set to ~0.8mm for the best results. Use ordinary plugs and change them every 10-15,000km or so and you will rarely experience a backfire.
If you have a high mileage engine, be sure to service it before the conversion. In particular, ensure that your oxygen sensor(s) are functioning properly, as it/they will affect your gas mileage and performance.
Regards,
Dave
Injected CNG, LNG & LPG: The only way to go better!
the voices told me to
never heard of any gas problems. unless you pump the accelerator before cranking it. that can make a mess . it was a cheap system they used. i thought it was funny though
TechJunkie
Use to be a cab driver (16 years) i think i know what im talking about (we use to run 23 cars).No need for flaming or stupid comments.These cars use to run 24/7,NOT 25 minutes a DAY.We put 14,yes forteen engines in to hallam tip(good bits stripped),no1 wants'em,cause market flooded with them.And another 11 to simsmetal.
I even try to sell some of them,http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/...-v6s-sale.html
12 with crack heads 2 with stuffed cam bearings,Even 2day (forget the hype) there is no LPG oil,we use to be in a special program with GMH directly,they use to supply the engines and oil.
Anyway to cut it short,LPG (unless they come up with the goods) is a bad news.
This must be a news to some of u's,but true.
TechJunkie
""The V6 is one hell of a tough motor. it takes a hell of alot more abuse than what LPG can throw at it.""
""That would have to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard.""
""You think if it 'cracked' heads in that small amount of time that holden would factory fit LPG????""
"There's no lubricating or cushioning effect with LPG. We've pulled engines apart and found dry, cracked heads, crumbling valves and cooked injectors. Falcons and Commodores are OK [ONLY the factory engines have hardened valve seats] ."an aftermarket conversion will void your new car warranty.
I hope you not a mechanic of any sort.
If the price is now the same, that is interesting. While we have you here (sort of), which brand of ECU and injectors? And what are the relative merits, in your experience, between the different SVi systems?
And we all know taxis are driven carefully and never thrashed now don't we, god have I lost count of how many stories taxi drivers have told me about things they do in their cabs. Most mechs will tell you that the V6 is a strong motor but then if you do want to constantly drive it hard then you tell me how many stock motors will take it.
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