Hid lights in vt???? Legal???
HI,
Is it correct saying that fitting HID globes is only legal if i use Projector Lenses? Like these:
VT COMMODORE ALTEZZA TYPE PROJECTOR HEAD LIGHTS CHROME - eBay Headlights, Lights, Indicators, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 14-Dec-08 17:04:13 AEDST)
I would be doing 35W low beam 6000k and 55W high beam 6000k
I also have self leveling rear suspension which i am lead to believe is also needed to be legal with HID lights?
I live out in the sticks so i need as much light as i can get! with the Roos, wombats, cows etc etc....
I dont know much about HID except i like the look of the light they give off!!!
even if they are not 100% legal. are projector lenses worth the money with HID?
Hopefuly someone can explain a little better for me!
Cheers!
Jason
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You would be better off with projector lenses yes.
Why would you need self levelling rear suspension for HID's?
No they will not be legal. They are illegal. You will have to fit a lens cleaning device and a self levelling system for the headlights (not rear suspension lol) in accordance with ADR/ECE regulations.
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your HID lights are alright for country but as vn2nv said you'd be better off with the projector lightsOriginally Posted by lil_oneblue
as for the legality of those lights nothing needs to be done no modifications need to be done for HID lights.
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Boy they have some stupid regs. Why would Hid need lens cleaning any more than the others that don't have cleaning.
self leveling, sure they are a tad brighter, but halogen will blind you too when pointing up.
the rules should apply to both or none.
self leveling rear suspension = level car no matter what the load. therefore its leveling the headlights.
lens cleaning screw that! haha....
might grab the projectors and see how i go.
seems like there isnt a straight foward answer......
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i just changed the standard globes on my vx to the super bright ones cost me round 110$ but they do the same job as HID's and they are legal so that could be an option, you can buy em at autobarn repco etc !!
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HID's are ALOT brighter than Halogen and can cause severe glare.
The regulation actually stipulate that any globes that emit more than 2,000 (or something) lumens (brightness) must be fitted with certain devices, including those mentioned. It is not discriminating against HID's, but any bright globes.
Most regulations make perfect sense if you sit there and think about it, they are after all there for a reason.
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How is there not a straight forward answer? I GAVE you a straight forward answer.
And btw, self levelling rear suspension is not a self levelling system for the actual headlights. Take a look at a vehicle fitted with HID's from factory when they start up and put the headlights on.
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Examples..
Self Levelling HID Headlights (watch 0:22 to 0:27):
On a 300C - YouTube - Chrysler 300c Auto-leveling HID lights
Lense Cleaning Devices:
On a 300C - YouTube - 300C Headlamp Washers
Audi A4 - YouTube - audi A4 '03 headlight washer system
BMW - YouTube - BMW headlight washers
Mercedes - YouTube - Mercedes Headlamp Washers
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hehe i get flashed by people all the time they shut up when i put on my high beams probably cause they cant see
ok thankyou for that.
not to sure how that is a good thing. but what ever floats your boat.
and forcing you to clean them helps with what? keeping them as bright as they can be?
That the silly rule. Halogen misadjusted or coming up a hill are still blinding to oncoming cars, just not as blinding. depends if they are using +50's or 100 w halogen etc.
Everyone is getting these lights now, won't be long before the RTA makes it a point to crack on them all after the complainers start whining about them. They will think plenty of fine income here for us to collect.
if you have mods on your car that might be defectable why add another one that attract them to pull you over and risk it all.
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next time you turn on your headlights on a frosty morning you'll see why. The frost makes your low beams act like its on high beams and glares all over the place
I know a few truck drivers that hate these lights.
They even blind truck drivers coming the other way.
If you want a head on with a truck fit them buy all means.
And even if you do see a kangaroo you are far better of hiting the thing than going bush into a tree or rolling the vehicle.
really never had that its never outside overnight
would rather see it so i can break.
ever hit a wombat mate? put it this way id rather hit a roo or emu any day!
have lived out in the stick all my life know how to not hit roos. yes your correct about sudden steering changes. BUT. if you can see futher ahead the roo etc is not going to scare you as much.
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isnt hitting a wombat like hitting a tree stump, compact and fricken hard
i got HID lights in my VG and in the spotties on the bullbar i luv them!!! but i do not think they are intirely legal i did hear that theyre illigal if fitted on the vehicle and are not a factory fitted item
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Yeah its like hitting a massive rockhard little buggers, all muscle. They can easily flip the car over.
They are illegal as already said unless you have cleaning systems fitted and whatnot. Though saying that i have seen 2 VT's with them using monaro projectors and they had almost no glare, very impressive for a halogen projector.
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Pretty sure even if you had the self leveling system and self cleaning system it will still be illegal unless you get it engineered, and even then haven't heard of anyone being able to do that.
Its not possible either way as the headlight housing was never designed for the focal point of a HID bulb, halogen and HID's are very different in design and focus points.
monaro projectors are the direction im looking at. but not going to be the cheapest way!
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i was gonna get a hid kit, but im just gonna get some good bright bulbs in my altezza headlights. should do the trick
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