electric window conversion parts

[callum_88]

ive got the regulators and the wiring inside the door, i know i need the front and rear switches, what else do i need
im guessing its the four looms connecting to the main switch or module/relay
am i correct? im unsure

[accentstencil]

You will need a MID level BCM and the loom for the main switch block if it is not already in place. Being an Executive it probably won't be.

[callum_88]

oh ive heard you dont need one
:S

[Mick1988]

I'm 99.9% sure that in my VX the wiring is there in the center console. Unscrew the two screws either side of your 12v cigarette lighter power plug and pull the console that surrounds the gearbox up and out and look for a cable with a plug. roundabouts where the power window switches are.

I would assume all the cars would come with the wiring and BCM ready for power windows to save time on production lines. If you have the wiring, your BCM should be fine too. You will need all 4 new door trims though because you will have holes where the winders were and you'll need holes in the back trims for the switches. Any door skins will do, you can swap the fabric insert from your existing trims onto it so it matches. Just make sure the skin covering is the same shade of black/grey

[accentstencil]

oh ive heard you dont need one
:S

You might already have a MID level BCM, but most execs have a LO level which doesn't allow for power windows. This is according to my Gregory's.

[topzone]

I recently converted my VX exe to power windows the master plug was already in the center consul it had the low level BCM this would not allow the drivers window to operate - solution there are two wires that come off the r/f rocker switch they alternate between + & - to drive the window regulator up or down.I traced them to the drivers footwell where I cut them, joined and ran new wires directly to the regulator the only thing is the r/f window wont go down automatically like a factory one you have to hold the switch till its down - no issue realy ! I wouldnt even bother buying the door looms a bit of work threading new wires and your done.

[callum_88]

oh great cheers
so would i need some wires that connect to the plug in the centre console that go to the rear and front regulators?
where do i locate this rocker switch?
so then i just need the switches and trims and ill be good?

[topzone]

Hey Callum if you can use a volt meter I can help you, if not its best left to a professional cheers

[hitman1979]

simple question does your car have ABS brakes?

if yes then under the the gear lever towards the back you should have a white rectangle plug that isnt pluged into anything that is the plug for the centre console switches for power windows. if that is there the rest of the wiring will be there just plug in the door looms and regulators and switches then go to holden and get a MID level BCM installed then its all done.

now if you dont have ABS brakes thats a bit harder you would probably be better off getting a pro to install the rest of the wiring from scratch for you

for some reason ABS and power windows came together as a option from factory so if you have ABS the wiring will be there for power windows except for the doors if you dont have ABS none of the wiring will be there.

now for the BCM
even if the wiring is there for the power windows doesnt mean that you would have a MID BCM installed from factory.

the only difference between the LOW and MID BCM is Power windows and electric aerial being an exec and if you dont have a electric aerial from factory and because you dont already have power windows you would only have a LOW BCM

[callum_88]

i can use a multimeter, i almost have cert 3 in electrotechnology

im not sure if i have abs, but i have seen a white rectangle plug not plugged into anything, but it was a bit higher than the centre console just in front of the gearstick on the left, i may look a little lower when i get a bit more time as i just had a quick look.

can i use that method that topzone was talkin about? instead of getting a new bcm?

cheers for all ur input everyone, as i have no idea with this power window stuff

[callum_88]

ohkay well i dont have abs, so does that mean i definately dont have the wiring harness for power windows, because i saw a plug in the wiring thats not plugged into anything, if its not for the switches any other ideas what its for?

[Mick1988]

Take a picture of it and we'll soon be able to tell you

[callum_88]

okay took apart my console and there seems to be a plug with nothing going to it, around the mark of where the switches should be.. so im hoping that its for that, let me know if you saw the same thing

cheers

also that last picture is a picture of this other plug doing nothing, what would that be for?

[hitman1979]

thats not the plug for the power windows, if it was there the wiring would come out from that hole in the carpet in the first pic. i am sorry but you dont have the wiring for power windows mate

the plug in the last pic that comes out the side of your console is for the mobile phone hands free kit.

if you want power windows mate i would honestly sugest getting a auto elec to install it for you, trust me i had the same problem you have now with my old VT and i ended up getting a whole wiring loom out of another vt with power windows and stripped out just the wiring for the windows but it was a headache to do even for me and i have had a few years expierence with wiring up other cars

[callum_88]

Oh you definately sure about that? does the plug look obviously different to what this plug is for? If so what is this plug actually for then?

[accentstencil]

The plug for the window switches is about 2 inches wide and has about 8 or 10 wires.

[hitman1979]

i know this switch is out of a VY but the plug that goes into it is the same as the VT-VX

and is the same plug for the factory stereo in a VN-VP

[callum_88]

oh cheers for your help.

ive rang up a few auto electricians, some dont do it, some do it, the two people ive rang that do it said they were looking at about 250-300ish but he wasnt sure he could do it, and another person said that lookin for about 550ish! i really think thats ridiculous does anybody know someone that can do it or at least tell me what i should do, because i am fairyl cluey on electrical as ive got a certificate in electrotechnology, i just dont want to f*** around with wires.

[SMIT]

ok ive never done this but i think all you will need is:

MID PCM (not BCM??? dont know.)
wiring in all doors,
main wiring loom,
regs in all doors
main switch block
rear switches

You know enough to do it yourself, just might be a bit time consuming.

[hitman1979]

for the body wiribg you could buy a body wiring loom out of a wreck with power windows and just strip the power window wiring out, or if you can get the power window wiring out of a VQ wich has a seperate wiring loom to the main loom and modify the plugs to fit your car (i have done this before and it does work).

[callum_88]

ah kay, cheers guys
so if i got a body loom, is it pretty hard to work out which is the power window wires?
i may have to trace them and see on the wires i have now and the wires i have and compare the wires with the new loom?

[xxaussiepridexx]

simple question does your car have ABS brakes?

if yes then under the the gear lever towards the back you should have a white rectangle plug that isnt pluged into anything that is the plug for the centre console switches for power windows. if that is there the rest of the wiring will be there just plug in the door looms and regulators and switches then go to holden and get a MID level BCM installed then its all done.

now if you dont have ABS brakes thats a bit harder you would probably be better off getting a pro to install the rest of the wiring from scratch for you

for some reason ABS and power windows came together as a option from factory so if you have ABS the wiring will be there for power windows except for the doors if you dont have ABS none of the wiring will be there.

now for the BCM
even if the wiring is there for the power windows doesnt mean that you would have a MID BCM installed from factory.

the only difference between the LOW and MID BCM is Power windows and electric aerial being an exec and if you dont have a electric aerial from factory and because you dont already have power windows you would only have a LOW BCM

just because u have abs doesnt mean u have the window loom mine has not got the loom

[Kirbieb]

Got to know instead of making a new thread if I have abs and an electric aerial does this mean I already have the mid level bcm

Edit: btw its a 2001 vx executive

[xxaussiepridexx]

Not really I have a vy sv8 with no cruise or power windows but has abs and electric ariel and I still have a low bcm which is not compatible for power windows I also don't have the power window harness some are different but so I say have a look for it first before doing anything else