Joel
VX SS Any Advice Would Be Good
Been trying to decide what car to buy for ages I think Iv finally set my mind on a VX SS wondering what sort of easy mods you can do to get that bit more power out of it and maybe some of the dearer 1’s to Thanks!!!
2 quickies...a split VZ ezhaust (from the cats back)
sounds better too!
and the Monaro cold air intake 2 hole airbox mod
with a Yella Terra big bore air intake
Smitty...with the VE SSv SII Sportswagon, VK race car and...Kwaka ZX12R
Joel
when you say "a split VZ ezhaust" do you mean like twins?Originally Posted by Smitty
Just get a MAFLESS tune - $600
extractors and exhaust system - $1000
OTR CAI - $400
The above will see you get around 230-240 rwkw.
VX SS - Twin 2.5 cat back - MAFLESS Tune - MCAI
Your freedom ends where mine begins
^^^ extractors and exhaust for 1000?? lol
Yeah... sure... lol... decent headers are about 700+ so that leaves 300 for a cats (or not) and exhaust system. lol... cute.
Yes... I'm sure for 1000 you could scratch something up... but... you get what you paid for.
A full pacemaker exhaust is about 2000 depending how much you shop around...
And you may also what to change the order your suggesting...
Exhaust or CAI doesn't matter the order... Tune AFTER you that.
Also... don't need to go mafless... alot of tuners get good power with MAF's... just a ported MAF might be an investment...
And once yout making some power... get some gears to give you some more up'n'go from that power...
Cheers
Joel
Ok so, it’s easy to tell every 1 what they said is wrong, well what’s your opinion? I want to do a few things to it to make it quicker than average (average being my bros vy ss) but still want it to be reasonable on fuel and reliable for trips because after all it’s meant to be a family car...
Joel
Is it still going to be reliable with the otr or will it require constant tuning and become a pain in the ass.? I don’t like my car at the mechanic
Joel
Also dose any 1 no if a OTR is legal?
Joel
So the car will run beta as in smoother without the air sensor thing once you get a mafless tune?
or beta as in quicker? But not smoother?
the otr makes the car better mate. As others have said get exhaust tune and OTR. for the ehhaust id recomened di fillipo or pace maker headers. Go for 4 into 1's 1 3/4" in size. Then get a twin 2.5" exhaust. Again di fillipo is good, there exhausts never drone and flow well but any other brand would be decent.
Also the otr is not legal neither is a tune or just about any other thing you do to the car.
Joel
haha fair enough so im slowly gathering that the otr is heaps beater then a cold air induction through a k&n pannel filter? but are we talking heaps beta ? or beta like when you put a k&n filter in your car n think its faster...
go used for the exhaust should get it all for around 1500 then a maffless tune and otr.should see you doing 12-13's
dunno never drove the car with a k&n. otr is said to be worth 10 rwkws over stock though.
The OTR is CAI set up, probably the best there is. It will most likely incorporate a K&N filter anyway.
If you do the exhaust, OTR without a tune, the car will not be much faster than it is stock. Generally a standard GEN3 is around 180-190rwkw from what i have read here and other forums.
When i got mine an exhaust with no tune, i think the car went backwards in power lol. Once i got the tune it was a whole new car. Smoother , more power and economical.
Before my tune i would average about 14l/100, now its around the 11/12l/100.
Looks like i got a bit flamed in my previous thread, so ill put this in order of purchase for basic mods:
1) Exhaust and OTR
2) Aftermarker tune.
When you get it tuned, they will tune it specifically to your vehicles mods and cars peculiars, thats if its a Dyno tune. Or if you send away for a mail order tune, there are a lot to choose from, you tell them your mods and they send you a tune that works just as well.
Hope this helps
VX SS - Twin 2.5 cat back - MAFLESS Tune - MCAI
Your freedom ends where mine begins
I gave my opinion in my post...
And yes... it is easy to tell people they are wrong... when they are wrong. Well done.
Anyway...
MOST OTRCAI are illegal as MOST require the maf to be removed and a mafless tune.
Some allow forr the maf to be still used but they have an exposed oiled air filter which is not legal...
You can get ones that have the filter enclosed and the maf is retained but technically you should have it enginnered with the new setup in order to be legal.
The reason OTR are so good is mainly because the air goes directly to the TB rather than taking an adventure tour of your engine bay via the airbox.
Also, the fact it travels less distance in the enigne bay means it reaches the engine cooler... which is good for the engine.
One more thing, In terms or exhaust... general rule of thumb... 3-tri headers give better performance down low... so take off etc. And a 4 into 1 gives better performance up high... thus why dyno shootout cars and drag cars will normally have 4 into 1.
Hope that helps
Joel
One thing I thought of the other day is.. and yea I understand the otr goes strait in so that’s good. But it sounds like the tune is really what’s making the biggest difference not the mods?
Your freedom ends where mine begins
Yes... the tune is what brings out the full potential of the other mods... and obviously the other mods are what allow for higher power and performacne gains from a tune.
Exhaust, intake, rockers can all go in without a tune and you will see performance gains from them... but it'll be a different car once you get it tuned...
Joel
You can get ones that have the filter enclosed and the maf is retained but technically you should have it enginnered with the new setup in order to be legal.
Hope that helps[/QUOTE]
just woundering if you no where i can find one of these and or what they are called so i can do serch on them
just want to no all options
thanks
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