Passenger Seatbelt Light.

[revv_head]

Hey I have a series II S pack and when i shine a torch on the dash, (which is the one pictured in the main banner fyi) i can see a seatbelt picture with the word pass under it. I'm assuming this is a Passenger Seatbelt light but i've never seen it work and dont even think i have sensors in my passenger seat. Why would it be here. Only S packs get this set of gauges and the entire cluster is only used within exec-acclaim/spack levels.

[Junny]

ive been wondering about those lights too.
and why dont we have those ones that come one when ur door not shut

[revv_head]

yeah thats gay. everyother car i know since about 1990 has those lights.

[mainpath]

I have it on my VZ as well, i wish there was a way to active it?
Has anyone actually been able to do this?

[Calaber]

I imagine to get this light to work, you would need to duplicate the wiring that already exists for the driver's seat belt warning light.

The driver's side warning light is activated from the seat belt catch. There are two wires running from the loom that also activates the seat belt tensioner in a prang. The wires are black and black with white tracer. They lead into the main wiring harness at the seat wiring connector between the driver's seat and the B pillar. I will have a look at the wiring diagrams to see if I can work out where to from there. Once that's done, it might be a comparitively simple matter of duplicating the wiring up to the warning light.

(But I bet it's harder than that!) Watch this space.

[Calaber]

Just checked the wiring diag's. The driver's seat alarm is actually only fed by the black./white wire. This feeds directly to the instrument panel light.

A check of the instrument panel wiring doesn't even show the passenger light as installed but not connected. I'm not familiar with the back of the VY instruments but I know they use multi-pin fixed plugs like the earlier models, so the wiring would have to feed into one of those plugs. You would then need the printed circuit at the back of the instruments to actually feed the passenger warning light. If it does feed that location, then I am assuming that you would need to install the globe, run the wire and Bob's your uncle.

Of course, I could be very wrong.

Is anybody familiar with the back of the instrument panel, or have an old one somewhere that they can check the printed circuits?

[alien]

Calaber, i'll check the wiring diagrams when i get home from Holden, but i'm fairly sure there's more to it than that. The Series 2 clusters are the ones with the 3 screens right? The series I i know had a different look, but can't remember if the series 2 has 3 screens.

I thought the seat belt catch patched into either the BCM or the SRS system. I could be wrong though, but when the alarm goes off it also sets off the speaker alarm to alert the driver.

I think the passenger side alarm was never put into real use because as it sits at the moment it would always alert the driver even if only the driver was in the car. The idea was to put a sensor to work out that there was a passenger on the actual seat, and if there was then alert when there was no seatbelt. But those sensors arn't in the S pack vehicles!

[revv_head]

Series 2 had different design but only single window. Only berlina and calais had 3 window. not even ss.

[alien]

OK, looking through the holden manual it shows that the drivers seat belt warning has voltage from the battery and then the circuit continues on to a "Timer". Thats where the details on that circuit end! It doesn't say anything about the passenger one either. I would think that this timer is actually part of the BCM. So getting the passenger one to work will be quite difficult.

I even had a look at another manual, and there's absolutly NOTHING in that manual [melbourne warehouse's manual]!

[Calaber]

Hi Alien

Yeah, it occurred to me that you would need to fit the activating switch into the passenger seat belt mechanism too, and that would be a bitch, unless you could somehow convert a driver's side belt.

I can't even say I've noticed the blanked off light in my instrument panel (3 window type) but then, I've never looked closely at it.

It does make you wonder why the provision for the light was provided if it was never used, doesn't it?

[Junny]

when i drove out of the driveway without my selt belt on. i relised IT DOESNT COME ON. . . .

[alien]

Junny, that's because no Holden vehicle was ever equipped with the passenger sensors. Well actually... none of the general public sale vehicles were.

They have the provisions for it because it was used in a select few vehicles and if people wanted in future they could do it themslves i guess. Even if it is fair pointless.

Calaber, the reason Holden didn't do it wasn't because of just that it was because there would also need to be a sensor on the seat. And if you put a breifcase on it it would probably set it off. Otherwise the other way of doing it is to make it on a timer to alert if it's not plugged in for the first 30 seconds or so, but if your the sort of person that warms up their vehicle its useless again!

This feature is probably too much of a hassle to worry about getting working. I definatly wouldn't be doing it.

[Junny]

Junny, that's because no Holden vehicle was ever equipped with the passenger sensors. Well actually... none of the general public sale vehicles were.

They have the provisions for it because it was used in a select few vehicles and if people wanted in future they could do it themslves i guess. Even if it is fair pointless.

Calaber, the reason Holden didn't do it wasn't because of just that it was because there would also need to be a sensor on the seat. And if you put a breifcase on it it would probably set it off. Otherwise the other way of doing it is to make it on a timer to alert if it's not plugged in for the first 30 seconds or so, but if your the sort of person that warms up their vehicle its useless again!

This feature is probably too much of a hassle to worry about getting working. I definatly wouldn't be doing it.

1. i meant the drivers seat.
2. it only starts beeping when u start moving

[alien]

1. Sorry, didn't know that.
As for 2, yes i know that, but would be kind of annoying everytime you start moving if there was no passenger there wouldn't it?

[Junny]

1. i meant the drivers seat.
2. Same as number 1 but, it only starts beeping when u start moving
lol

[Calaber]

Junny, that's because no Holden vehicle was ever equipped with the passenger sensors. Well actually... none of the general public sale vehicles were.

They have the provisions for it because it was used in a select few vehicles and if people wanted in future they could do it themslves i guess. Even if it is fair pointless.

Calaber, the reason Holden didn't do it wasn't because of just that it was because there would also need to be a sensor on the seat. And if you put a breifcase on it it would probably set it off. Otherwise the other way of doing it is to make it on a timer to alert if it's not plugged in for the first 30 seconds or so, but if your the sort of person that warms up their vehicle its useless again!

This feature is probably too much of a hassle to worry about getting working. I definatly wouldn't be doing it.

I agree. Not worth the trouble.

[Junny]

oh .... i just remembered my friend had a vz. haha but it was only on the drivers side

[revv_head]

Junny. Any chance you're drunk?

[Junny]

Junny. Any chance you're drunk?

nope. i just dont make much sense

[revv_head]

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[anonymousmoose]

When I used to drive S packs at my old job (I think VZ) the seatbelt beep would come on when I tried to drive without the belt inserted (I'm only talking drivers side, forget passenger).

My WK Caprice nothing happens if I dont put my seatbelt in. I do prefer it as I cant stand the noise anyways. I'm curious, why would a WK Caprice not have the warning but Commodores do?

My uncle in Germany (just flew back from there) has the new A-Class Mercedes (yes I told him it was a looserish car in a very nice way... C class would the lowest I'd go) and his car detects even if rear passengers dont have seatbelts. No beep just a message on the dash saying there are people in the back not wearing seatbelts. I do like that idea.

[Junny]

When I used to drive S packs at my old job (I think VZ) the seatbelt beep would come on when I tried to drive without the belt inserted (I'm only talking drivers side, forget passenger).

My WK Caprice nothing happens if I dont put my seatbelt in. I do prefer it as I cant stand the noise anyways. I'm curious, why would a WK Caprice not have the warning but Commodores do?

My uncle in Germany (just flew back from there) has the new A-Class Mercedes (yes I told him it was a looserish car in a very nice way... C class would the lowest I'd go) and his car detects even if rear passengers dont have seatbelts. No beep just a message on the dash saying there are people in the back not wearing seatbelts. I do like that idea.

annoying when u just put bags n shit there. it still goes off