FITTING VE SSV 19" on a VY ??
i know this has probably already been posted, but im not really that good at finding that type of stuff on here. if anyone has a link id greatly appreciate it.
but i have a vy and just bought a set of ve ssv 19" wheels for it. Ive heard that ve has a differant stud pattern? and ive heard of a boreing process, and a spacer process? just wondering which is better and why? or if theres other options..
cheers
Custom VY Commodore
Not sure, All i heard is they have to be machiened out.
My 2003 VY Holden Commodore
Your freedom ends where mine begins
How you going mate... first up... any type of space or adapter is a big no-no... they illegal and in alot of cases fairly dangerous when you get the dodge ones.
Right... back to your main issue...
My understanding is that, the VE and the VY DO share the same stud pattern (5x120) but they do not share the centre bore or studs.
I know that the 12mm stud was used on the VY while the VE has a 14mm stud. So you need to be careful with the nuts you use.
Found this also:
Holden VE Commodore: production line at the Elizabeth factory in Adelaide.
When Holden introduced the all-new VE Commodore in August it changed some crucial dimensions of the wheel-locating system. This was done to avoid confusion on the production line (as the Holden factory will be building both new and old models for some time yet) and to cope with the new Commodore's extra weight, width and grip levels.
Holden sent the following statement to Drive on Wednesday: "Fitting VE wheels onto a VZ [or earlier model Commodore] is not recommended or condoned by GM Holden as it raises some safety concerns as there are two major differences in the wheels."
Holden said the VE Commodore has 14mm wheel studs and earlier Commodores have 12mm wheel studs.
"If a VE wheel were fitted onto a VZ [or earlier model Commodore] there is a concern that there would not be enough bearing area under the retention nut on the aluminium wheel, which, worse case scenario, means the wheel could potentially fall off."
And also this thread:
VZ vs VE offset
Hope that helps.
SSV rims machined? (sorry fellas)
i had a thread on it bout 2 weeks ago,
i think its been covered for u already though
how much the rims set you back? with tyres?
thanks for the replies,
i got the wheels dirt cheap. 610 dollars with about 50-60 percent rubber. the only problem is, is one wheel has a flat spot on the inner lip. this would cost me 50 - 100 dollars to fix. other than that the wheels are perfect. so scratches or scuffs. thanks guys. any other info, or if you know anyone who has done this would greatly help. cheers
i have 19 inch ve ssv rims fitted to my vy ss but i brought it like that and im not sure if they are genuine or not (bad spelling i know) but i have had no problems with them ill check to see what size studs i have and let you know when i find out
yeah thanks mate, thatd be good.
A bogan with style
The larger tyre places in the capital cities machine the wheels for about 20-25 bucks a rim.
oh really? like tyre power, bob jane etc? or differant ones??Originally Posted by Travy
bob jane today quoted me 70 bucks a wheels
Phantom VY SS
Quick question?.......can you change the wheel studs on a VYSS Hub from 12mm to 14mm so that you don't have to machine the rims?
Tells it like it is.
Machining the rims is a completely separate to the stud issue. The centre spigot of the hub is smaller on the VE compared to earlier models and thus the middle hole of the wheel needs to be machined out to fit over it.
With regards to the wheel studs, the wheel nut must have a contact patch on the wheel to lock correctly to the hub. According to the above post, a 12mm stud/nut combo will not provide a large enough area. This is common sense really - A 12mm stud fitting in a hole designed for 14mm will be flopping around like a **** in a sock and about as useful.
In order to fit these wheels correctly to earlier model Commodores, you would need to m/c the centre dia of the wheel out a bit and fit 14mm studs to your existing mounting hubs which is not a difficult job. (although I reckon there would be all of 2 cars out there that are correctly mounted).
Reaper
Phantom VY SS
Good point, thats what I needed to know & understand as I am thinking of putting a set of Genuine VE GTS 20's on my VYSS and the wheel stud issue seems pretty common sense to me.
So am I correct in understanding that most tyre places are able to machine the wheels to fit if I supply the 14mm wheel studs?
I would prefer to do it correctly so the wheels don't fall off.
Your freedom ends where mine begins
Most tyre palces will be able to machine the wheels for you... yes... not sure about doing the studs for you.
But, in regards to the studs. I think you can get away with using a nut that will fit the 12mm stud but still has the correct clamping area surface...
The nuts are a cone shape at the clamping end so as long the the centre of the wheel is machined to fit properly... the job of the nut is to keep the wheel on the centre spigot.
Pretty sure wheel king can supply the correct nuts for this application.
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Hope this helps
Tells it like it is.
By rights you need the outside dim of a m14 nut however with a 12mm thread internally if you don't want to change the studs. You would need to investigate further, however knocking thru the studs, drilling a bigger hole and then fitting larger studs surely can't be hard???
Reaper
A bogan with style
Genuine GTS rims are 20 x 8.5 front 20 x 9.5 rears.. good luck fitting those!!!
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