VY/VZ Strut Brace Cost

[alien]

Anyone here know how much a genuine Strut Brace costs directly from Holden at the moment? All spare parts places are closed now, and i just came into some money i might have for it

Secondly, in the VY and VZ's it has the bolts already in the vehicle, but does the Strut Brace come with the nuts to secure it?

[one_and_only2004]

about $60 i think. My whiteline brace came with the nuts plus another set of bolts.

[lukeyVY]

your kidding $60?? i was quoted like $200 odd for an aftermarket one, is the genuine one any good?

[one_and_only2004]

yeah. It'll probably do the same thing as any strut brace would, though mine's adjustable whereas the holden one isn't.
$200 sounds right for the strut brace. i got mine plus front and rear swaybars for $400

[BANKS]

The holden one does pretty much fek all... you wont notice a massive difference putting it on.

Holden marketing wanted it on there to make the car look more "sporty"

For a strut brace to be 100% effective the bar has to be straight. Any bends in the bar is basially a pivit point for the stresses generated which pretty much cancels out any reason to have one in the first place...

Whiteline do one for the commo. Look im not saying it wont do anything for your car, i couldnt tell a difference in mine, but the money could be spent elsewhere on the suspension for a more dramatic difference

[crew chief]

Got a genuine one about 3 weeks ago approx $46.00 and $3 for the nuts and it did make the front of mine less prone to body roll, it is a stato though its not exactly a high speed cornering machine.

[chargedvx6]

Anyone here know how much a genuine Strut Brace costs directly from Holden at the moment? All spare parts places are closed now, and i just came into some money i might have for it

Secondly, in the VY and VZ's it has the bolts already in the vehicle, but does the Strut Brace come with the nuts to secure it?

$60 from Holden. Kevin Dennis supplies them with the nuts. Not sure on the size but they are the same as the exhaust manifold nuts (13mm socket and course pitched thread. They are an effective and cheap unit.

[FAT.36L]

I Got Mine $60 From Holden And I When To AutoBarn And They Wanted $200 The Holden 1 Did The Job Nicely

[minux]

Dont waste your money on it. For any road going vehicle they do NOTHING heck, i didnt even notice the difference between using a holden/whiteline and nothing at a track day.

Great placebo mod though, everyone seems to think they actually make a difference.

Anyway, price at holden is $48, which includes nuts. Each dealer will probably vary depending on how much they are shafting the community. Just give a couple of local ones a call.

[one_and_only2004]

Dont waste your money on it. For any road going vehicle they do NOTHING heck, i didnt even notice the difference between using a holden/whiteline and nothing at a track day.

Great placebo mod though, everyone seems to think they actually make a difference.

Probably because they do? My ute was shitloads stiffer up the front right after i put all my bits in. I know the sway bars probably are to blame for most of this, but i doubt the strut brace just sits there smiling.

[VYMAD]

I reckon I'll price one from Holden. If they're between 38-60 odd bux then why not give one a go? Although here in bundaberg they'll probably want $100+ for one as most things in this town are dearer. Petrol is 5-10 c/p/l more than down the road at Childers and Maryborough. DOHHH!!!!

[Lumps of cheese]

As minux said, they don't do alot if anything really but for $30 odd bucks it's not a lot to spend anyway.

[minux]

Probably because they do? My ute was shitloads stiffer up the front right after i put all my bits in. I know the sway bars probably are to blame for most of this, but i doubt the strut brace just sits there smiling.

You have evidence of this?

Certainly made no difference on the track when i was testing them, again, they are a great placebo mod

[VYMAD]

As minux said, they don't do alot if anything really but for $30 odd bucks it's not a lot to spend anyway.

I sure hope they're 30 odd bux here!

[one_and_only2004]

You have evidence of this?

Certainly made no difference on the track when i was testing them, again, they are a great placebo mod

Don't particularly care what others/you think, i noticed an improvement.

[BullittSV6]

You have evidence of this?

Certainly made no difference on the track when i was testing them, again, they are a great placebo mod

Do you have evidence that they did nothing? Lap times? Or just your word against one_and_only2004's?

I noticed that it sharpened the front up slightly. But that was just the feeling I got.

Another thing. How different is the suspension set ups in a VY senator and a VYII S ute. I imagine that the Senator is pretty well sorted but maybe the effect on a VYII S is more prominent if the suspension's not as focussed. Hell there's probably a difference between a VYII S sedan and ute.

In the end, its about $50. If it makes an improvement, great. If it doesn't, its just $50.

[unregistered]

Mine was about $40-50, I noticed it was easier to steer at low speeds, i doubt it would work for heavy duty racing though.

[Lumps of cheese]

I sure hope they're 30 odd bux here!

Trade prices my friend

[minux]

Do you have evidence that they did nothing? Lap times? Or just your word against one_and_only2004's?

I noticed that it sharpened the front up slightly. But that was just the feeling I got.

Another thing. How different is the suspension set ups in a VY senator and a VYII S ute. I imagine that the Senator is pretty well sorted but maybe the effect on a VYII S is more prominent if the suspension's not as focussed. Hell there's probably a difference between a VYII S sedan and ute.

In the end, its about $50. If it makes an improvement, great. If it doesn't, its just $50.

5 laps of each, no different times, all averaged pretty much exactly the same. I think if it made a difference, you would notice it on a track over the street. the only thing it did do was get really hot which made it hard to remove.

[kart_racer]

The holden one does pretty much fek all... you wont notice a massive difference putting it on.

Holden marketing wanted it on there to make the car look more "sporty"

For a strut brace to be 100% effective the bar has to be straight. Any bends in the bar is basially a pivit point for the stresses generated which pretty much cancels out any reason to have one in the first place...

Whiteline do one for the commo. Look im not saying it wont do anything for your car, i couldnt tell a difference in mine, but the money could be spent elsewhere on the suspension for a more dramatic difference

Some very loose truths in that.

Bends are virtually impossible to remove from a strut brace due to the location. They will not affect it enough to mean the brace is redundant. All that is needed is support to prevent the towers flexing and the Holden strut brace is adequate enough to do this.

The major issue with the generation 3 Commodore that the strut brace is there to fix is fatigue on the joins of the strut towers, which eventually crack. Preventing such excessive flexing of the towers prevents fatigue.

As far as performance gains go, there should be slightly less flexing, so turn in should be better and compliance over uneven roads should be improved. Many have attested to this being true.

Sure, the whiteline brand one is adjustable and stiffer, and will most likely do a better job than the Holden one. But for $50 the Holden one is great! It's not weak or thin like some available on eBay and is up to the task.

Maybe a strut brace doesn't show up with laptimes on a track, but it does make a slight difference to handling and compliance, and will prevent strut tower cracks. Worth the $50 and time to fit.

[alien]

Went into the local holden dealership today, got the strut brace for $44 (trade price there including GST). Didn't have it in stock, so ordered it and it was there and waiting for me to pick it up within an hour! Nuts i ended up buying there, at $1 each it aint too bad at all. $4 anyways. While i was there also got my replacement aerial mast too Only $40 inc GST

Got some prices on few other parts too. Will throw it on later today if i finish assignment and see if i notice any change, if not, i've spent a total of $50 and not really fussed.

[SAV_117]

do u have to drill the holes for them?

[alien]

Nah, in the VY and VZ's there is the bolts already poking up from the top of where your suspension is. Just throw the crossbar on and put your nuts on and your laughing.

[SAV_117]

cool thanks ill check it out

[400 HP VY 'S']

hi guys,
i have herd that the strut brace is good for straight line stuff but not the best for cornering/turning...
is this true?