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    Does anyone know if in HSV's the power steering pump is the same as standard VY power steering pump?

    Found where my whine was coming from, so new pump is needed.

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    easiest way is to ring and get the part number... compare them both.

    Odd that a PS pump would go in a car so young... weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azkwazere View Post
    easiest way is to ring and get the part number... compare them both.

    Odd that a PS pump would go in a car so young... weird.

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    Nah its hardly odd when you see what it goes through on track days


    Might give holden a ring, best i get an ambulance on stand by when they give me their part prices lol.
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    Ok, turns out both pumps are exactly the same!
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    How would tightening the house stop it from whining exactly?
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    The power steering on V8 LS commodores has always been a problem when you start using the steering quite vigorously.
    There have been reports of the plastic reserviors actually melting from the heat generated.
    If your doesn't have a power steer cooler I suggest you fit one and if it does then you better fit a bigger one, maybe one of the tube and fin style like this one on eBay, also think SC did an article on them.
    BTR - LS1 LS2 L76 VT-VZ power steer / trans oil cooler - eBay Engine Modifications, Performance Parts, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 29-Jul-09 18:56:52 AEST)

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    Hey Minux

    You would have the speed sensitive one wouldn't you, should be around $350 to 400 (thats how much it is for a VT anyways)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfwagon View Post
    The power steering on V8 LS commodores has always been a problem when you start using the steering quite vigorously.
    There have been reports of the plastic reserviors actually melting from the heat generated.
    If your doesn't have a power steer cooler I suggest you fit one and if it does then you better fit a bigger one, maybe one of the tube and fin style like this one on eBay, also think SC did an article on them.
    BTR - LS1 LS2 L76 VT-VZ power steer / trans oil cooler - eBay Engine Modifications, Performance Parts, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 29-Jul-09 18:56:52 AEST)

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    Cheers mate, the car goes in a few weeks, so im not bothering with anything like that. Just have to replace the pump to keep dealer im trading with happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by 50LTRv8 View Post
    Hey Minux

    You would have the speed sensitive one wouldn't you, should be around $350 to 400 (thats how much it is for a VT anyways)
    Nah, no VY has a speed sensitive one on the LS1 engines, all berlina, SS, calais, HSV have the same pump as confirmed by Holden.
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    not sure if its the same thing but when i put in my new radiator i had to manipulate the power steering fluid reservoir, accidently loosening the outlet hose, letting air in (bubbles in the reservoir) tightend the hose up and all was fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    How would tightening the house stop it from whining exactly?
    Air getting into the outlet hose caused the whining noise for me. Once tightened up, back to normal...

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    Any change in pressure can cause 'whine' that includes loose hoses. Fixed mine up by having a complete flush with new fluid and noise went away straight away. New liquid looked like crystal water compared to the soup as it was before, hard to 'see' unless you have new and old fluids together at the same time. Its recomended that most fluids like brake/clutch/steering be replaced every 18-24months, so even new cars under warranty have them changed. A single track day can be equivilant to months of driving on public roads, so changing fluids more often is understandable.

    Hey minux, you still going to do track days in the subbie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farlig View Post
    Any change in pressure can cause 'whine' that includes loose hoses. Fixed mine up by having a complete flush with new fluid and noise went away straight away. New liquid looked like crystal water compared to the soup as it was before, hard to 'see' unless you have new and old fluids together at the same time.
    Problem I have, is the input shaft has backward and forward movement from the pulley, not sure its meant to have any lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    Problem I have, is the input shaft has backward and forward movement from the pulley, not sure its meant to have any lol.
    Ouch how many mm movement we talking about? more than a couple and should start geting worried.

    A lot of auto parts stores do change over power steering pumps, drop the rooted one off and pickup a reconditioned one. Prices would differ all over but theres even ebay for those that trust that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farlig View Post
    Ouch how many mm movement we talking about? more than a couple and should start geting worried.

    A lot of auto parts stores do change over power steering pumps, drop the rooted one off and pickup a reconditioned one. Prices would differ all over but theres even ebay for those that trust that way.

    Its backward and forward movement only, probably about 5-8mm lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    Its backward and forward movement only, probably about 5-8mm lol.
    belt should keep it centred, dont worry about it get it flushed out properly and all air removed from the system.

    you going to use the subbie at track days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farlig View Post
    belt should keep it centred, dont worry about it get it flushed out properly and all air removed from the system.

    you going to use the subbie at track days?
    Yeah, plan on it, first thing I'll be doing is a brake upgrade and hopefully within next few weeks the new engines will be cracked for tuning.
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