Tried removing the wheels on my VY "S" today to inspect the brakes etc etc only to find that after the wheel nuts were all removed the wheels would not budge from the hubs.
Tried back and front wheels - same problem. Tapping them gently with a rubber mallet from the inner side of the wheel did nothing to release them. .
Reckon I could have pulled the car off the jack if I had tried any harder to pull them away by hand from the hub after the nuts were removed.
Never had this kind of stupid problem with wheels before on any of my cars. They always just come away. Just great if you have a puncture and you need to fit the spare but cannot remove the wheel!! They are Holden By Design X series mags.
Looks like I will have to go to a tyre dealer or the local garage to get the wheels off.
The wheels have been off few times for servicing and inspection of brakes but have never been removed by me. They have not been touched for about 18 months or so -- until I attempted today.
Has anyone else had this kind of stupid problem? Any sensible suggestions would be welcome - thanks
ive come across couple times, i just put a small piece of wood behind the wheel and gave it a few lights hits with my sledge hammer.
trust me, works everytime.
I got no suggestions but i had exactly the same problem with my vy, wanted to look at the brakes but had to much trouble getting the wheel off so i just gave up haha. but yeah its weird
Boot it on the sides n the bottom
when you get them off sand the hub a bit n lube to prevent it happenin again
Thanks. I actually did try laying a piece of 4 inch by 2 inch timber down beside the tyre - inner side - so the timber covered most of the tyre and gave the timber a few firm taps with a rubber mallet. That did not loosen the wheel on the hub - but it should have been enough force. Tried this on front and rear RH wheels. I don't want to hit the thing very hard due to potential damage. (Dismantling axles from diff centres is easier than this.)
Have tried "booting it" on the sides and bottom - but not really hard. No good.
Yes dry sanding and lubing the hub face is essential which I intended doing when I can get the darn wheels off. It's like they have virtually welded themselves to the hub face.
Maybe I will try again when the hubs are warmed up from brake heat. They were cold when I tried first up.
My mate had this problem on his vy. Finally got them off but there was a blue gluesubstance on the hub. Weird..
Thanks for the comment Nixon and others.
Last edited by Sean880; 31-08-2009 at 10:00 AM.
yeah just kick the shit out of the out side of the rim until it comes loose but dont let the car fall over.
sometimes they can be stuck on the thread as the wheel can rotate 1-2deg due to clearancing on the studs. try knocking the tyre from the side to 'rotate it' a bit.
Get this all the time at work. Rubber mallet works best. Hit it from the inside of the rim outwards. Then before putting the wheel back on, give both the wheel and hub a clean of any surface rust and what not using a wire brush. Then apply some anti-seize to the hub before the wheel goes back on. This will help when it comes to taking it off next time.
Thanks for all comments posted.
A couple of tyre dealers tell me this is a very common issue with alloy wheels on a range of cars. So if you have them on your car it would be worth checking at home that you can remove them before you are stranded with a flat tyre and a wheel that is stuck on the hub.
Last edited by Sean880; 31-08-2009 at 10:04 AM.
just undo your bolts, and drive around untill your wheel falls off. then pay for the damage you caused. and bam got your wheel off
Use some emery paper on the hub to get rid of some of the rusted buildup that accumulates.
You need to jack the car up first mate, didnt see any mention that you'd done that part :P
Just kidding, no real help from me :P
stating the obvious but it happens as the hub/wheel heat up and cool down all the time and they're expanding and shrinking just locks them up tight. big BIG problem with alloys, mainly commodores and falcons.
i had this problem mate were the wheels slides over the hub inside should be a little lip i sanded that off on my old wheels and yer thats wat mine was. but could be diffrent
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Its more often the lip than not. Its designed to snug fit over the hub ring, so when they heat up and cool down they just lock up. So sand or clean off the surface rust as good as you can. A bit of anti-seize around the hub ring helps for next t ime you take your wheel/s off
Yes thanks.
Was easier to get off once the tyre shop had removed them once. Still needed a rubber mallet to loosen them though.
Have sanded and wire brushed and removed all rust and applied a thin smear of lubricant in the right places on the hub face and inside the wheel where it attaches to the hub.
Will give it a try in a few months and see how it goes next time.