Results 1 to 21 of 21

Thread: VY Wheels - Stuck on the Hubs

  1. #1
    Ride
    VY II S V6 Supercharged and 911 Porsche 996 3.6

    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    VIC / NSW
    Posts
    441

    Default VY Wheels - Stuck on the Hubs

    Tried removing the wheels on my VY "S" today to inspect the brakes etc etc only to find that after the wheel nuts were all removed the wheels would not budge from the hubs.

    Tried back and front wheels - same problem. Tapping them gently with a rubber mallet from the inner side of the wheel did nothing to release them. .
    Reckon I could have pulled the car off the jack if I had tried any harder to pull them away by hand from the hub after the nuts were removed.

    Never had this kind of stupid problem with wheels before on any of my cars. They always just come away. Just great if you have a puncture and you need to fit the spare but cannot remove the wheel!! They are Holden By Design X series mags.

    Looks like I will have to go to a tyre dealer or the local garage to get the wheels off.

    The wheels have been off few times for servicing and inspection of brakes but have never been removed by me. They have not been touched for about 18 months or so -- until I attempted today.

    Has anyone else had this kind of stupid problem? Any sensible suggestions would be welcome - thanks

  2. #2
    Ride
    '97 VS Commodore + '98 E36

    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    1,356

    Default

    ive come across couple times, i just put a small piece of wood behind the wheel and gave it a few lights hits with my sledge hammer.

    trust me, works everytime.

  3. #3
    Ride
    Vy ss Series 2

    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Launceston, Tas
    Posts
    41

    Default

    I got no suggestions but i had exactly the same problem with my vy, wanted to look at the brakes but had to much trouble getting the wheel off so i just gave up haha. but yeah its weird

  4. #4
    Ride
    VT spac super6

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Riverton sa
    Posts
    826

    Default

    Boot it on the sides n the bottom

    when you get them off sand the hub a bit n lube to prevent it happenin again

  5. #5
    Ride
    VY II S V6 Supercharged and 911 Porsche 996 3.6

    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    VIC / NSW
    Posts
    441

    Default

    Thanks. I actually did try laying a piece of 4 inch by 2 inch timber down beside the tyre - inner side - so the timber covered most of the tyre and gave the timber a few firm taps with a rubber mallet. That did not loosen the wheel on the hub - but it should have been enough force. Tried this on front and rear RH wheels. I don't want to hit the thing very hard due to potential damage. (Dismantling axles from diff centres is easier than this.)

    Have tried "booting it" on the sides and bottom - but not really hard. No good.

    Yes dry sanding and lubing the hub face is essential which I intended doing when I can get the darn wheels off. It's like they have virtually welded themselves to the hub face.

    Maybe I will try again when the hubs are warmed up from brake heat. They were cold when I tried first up.

  6. #6
    NIXONLS1 is offline Banned
    Ride
    my mum

    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Bansville
    Posts
    185

    Default

    My mate had this problem on his vy. Finally got them off but there was a blue gluesubstance on the hub. Weird..

  7. #7
    Ride
    VY II S V6 Supercharged and 911 Porsche 996 3.6

    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    VIC / NSW
    Posts
    441

    Default

    Thanks for the comment Nixon and others.
    Last edited by Sean880; 31-08-2009 at 10:00 AM.

  8. #8
    Ride
    Enter the Model/Class of your Commodore. i.e. VL C

    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Gippsland
    Posts
    891

    Default

    yeah just kick the shit out of the out side of the rim until it comes loose but dont let the car fall over.

  9. #9
    Ride
    VY S L67

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    297

    Default

    sometimes they can be stuck on the thread as the wheel can rotate 1-2deg due to clearancing on the studs. try knocking the tyre from the side to 'rotate it' a bit.

  10. #10
    Verynice's Avatar
    Verynice is offline Band
    Ride
    VS Caprice 5L

    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    SA - The Backwards State
    Posts
    1,039

    Default

    Get this all the time at work. Rubber mallet works best. Hit it from the inside of the rim outwards. Then before putting the wheel back on, give both the wheel and hub a clean of any surface rust and what not using a wire brush. Then apply some anti-seize to the hub before the wheel goes back on. This will help when it comes to taking it off next time.

  11. #11
    Ride
    VY II S V6 Supercharged and 911 Porsche 996 3.6

    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    VIC / NSW
    Posts
    441

    Default

    Thanks for all comments posted.

    A couple of tyre dealers tell me this is a very common issue with alloy wheels on a range of cars. So if you have them on your car it would be worth checking at home that you can remove them before you are stranded with a flat tyre and a wheel that is stuck on the hub.
    Last edited by Sean880; 31-08-2009 at 10:04 AM.

  12. #12
    Ride
    VS Commodore series II

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Port Macquarie
    Posts
    226

    Default

    just undo your bolts, and drive around untill your wheel falls off. then pay for the damage you caused. and bam got your wheel off

  13. #13
    Sabbath''s Avatar
    Sabbath' is offline Take it out/Take it Back
    Ride
    Turbo Diesel SR5 Hilux/VH 308

    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Vic
    Posts
    2,599

    Default

    Use some emery paper on the hub to get rid of some of the rusted buildup that accumulates.

  14. #14
    DanVN's Avatar
    DanVN is offline Cruizin' in style!
    Ride
    01 WH Statesman International 5.7L

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Western Suburbs, Vic
    Posts
    246

    Default

    You need to jack the car up first mate, didnt see any mention that you'd done that part :P

    Just kidding, no real help from me :P

  15. #15
    Verynice's Avatar
    Verynice is offline Band
    Ride
    VS Caprice 5L

    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    SA - The Backwards State
    Posts
    1,039

    Default

    stating the obvious but it happens as the hub/wheel heat up and cool down all the time and they're expanding and shrinking just locks them up tight. big BIG problem with alloys, mainly commodores and falcons.

  16. #16
    FA-77-VY's Avatar
    FA-77-VY is offline Trav
    Ride
    vy s pack & vs s pac ute

    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Aberglasslyn
    Posts
    39

    Default

    i had this problem mate were the wheels slides over the hub inside should be a little lip i sanded that off on my old wheels and yer thats wat mine was. but could be diffrent
    vs ute for sale pm me if interested

  17. #17
    Verynice's Avatar
    Verynice is offline Band
    Ride
    VS Caprice 5L

    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    SA - The Backwards State
    Posts
    1,039

    Default

    Its more often the lip than not. Its designed to snug fit over the hub ring, so when they heat up and cool down they just lock up. So sand or clean off the surface rust as good as you can. A bit of anti-seize around the hub ring helps for next t ime you take your wheel/s off

  18. #18
    Ride
    VY II S V6 Supercharged and 911 Porsche 996 3.6

    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    VIC / NSW
    Posts
    441

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by VRYNYS View Post
    Its more often the lip than not. Its designed to snug fit over the hub ring, so when they heat up and cool down they just lock up. So sand or clean off the surface rust as good as you can. A bit of anti-seize around the hub ring helps for next t ime you take your wheel/s off
    Yes thanks.
    Was easier to get off once the tyre shop had removed them once. Still needed a rubber mallet to loosen them though.
    Have sanded and wire brushed and removed all rust and applied a thin smear of lubricant in the right places on the hub face and inside the wheel where it attaches to the hub.
    Will give it a try in a few months and see how it goes next time.

  19. #19
    Ride
    VY II S V6 Supercharged and 911 Porsche 996 3.6

    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    VIC / NSW
    Posts
    441

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_VS_II View Post
    just undo your bolts, and drive around untill your wheel falls off. then pay for the damage you caused. and bam got your wheel off
    It's not funny but perhaps you wanted to make a fool out of yourself.

    Well you achieved that 100%.

  20. #20
    Ride
    ......

    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    NSW
    Posts
    667

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean880 View Post
    Tried removing the wheels on my VY "S" today to inspect the brakes etc etc only to find that after the wheel nuts were all removed the wheels would not budge from the hubs.

    Tried back and front wheels - same problem. Tapping them gently with a rubber mallet from the inner side of the wheel did nothing to release them. .
    Reckon I could have pulled the car off the jack if I had tried any harder to pull them away by hand from the hub after the nuts were removed.

    Never had this kind of stupid problem with wheels before on any of my cars. They always just come away. Just great if you have a puncture and you need to fit the spare but cannot remove the wheel!! They are Holden By Design X series mags.

    Looks like I will have to go to a tyre dealer or the local garage to get the wheels off.

    The wheels have been off few times for servicing and inspection of brakes but have never been removed by me. They have not been touched for about 18 months or so -- until I attempted today.

    Has anyone else had this kind of stupid problem? Any sensible suggestions would be welcome - thanks
    Crack the wheel nuts and drive the car back and forth a few meters.

  21. #21
    Ride
    VY II S V6 Supercharged and 911 Porsche 996 3.6

    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    VIC / NSW
    Posts
    441

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by WPN-42L View Post
    Crack the wheel nuts and drive the car back and forth a few meters.
    Not the best option but if you had no other choice then worth a try I guess .
    I now carry a rubber mallet in the boot just in case.

Similar Threads

  1. VL Holden Wheels wont fit on Trailer with Holden Hubs WTF?
    By Gazza2005au in forum VN - VP Holden Commodore (1988 - 1993)
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 07-10-2011, 10:51 PM
  2. ABS Hubs
    By VR38 in forum VR - VS Holden Commodore (1993 - 1997)
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 04-05-2009, 05:03 PM
  3. New Hubs - Speed reading 20km/h Over rear wheels
    By Dangerous Dave in forum VR - VS Holden Commodore (1993 - 1997)
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 19-04-2009, 10:16 PM
  4. VS Hubs the same as VT?
    By nick88 in forum VR - VS Holden Commodore (1993 - 1997)
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 26-10-2006, 01:03 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72