Do the Commodore's have total closure?

[ma1green]

Hi all, I was wondering the above as I had a Vectra in the UK and did a modification on it. Basically when you lock your doors the windows go up. It was an easy mod,all I did was cross a couple of wires and it worked. The total closure was only on top of the range Vectra's, and the kit cost's about £200 ($400 ish) in the UK. My VY doesn't have it, so I was wondering if any of the Commodore's have it?

[STEALTHY™]

No Stock Commodores have it. I have been told new HSVs have it, but i'm not too sure.

ALOT of places have aftermarket alarms which do it tho, so it can't be hard to setup.

[ma1green]

That's a shame, all the Vectra's had the wiring but just weren't connected on the lower end models.

[Delish-VY]

yeah i had a vectra for about a year and a half, a 99 JSII CD, and that had the total closure..but only when i locked the doors with a key, a nice little perk but completely pointless IMO...just close ur windows when u know ur gunna get out...it was a fun extra that i used to show off how fancy the car was lol...but still...i hate vectra's...they are evil...and if i were you...try not to do anything that will make people think anything like "oh yeah thats kinda like a vectra' lol, cos those cars are useless...

[ma1green]

Compared to the Commodore they are crap, but it is a nice little perk that you'd have thought would be standard.

[Delish-VY]

vectra's were designed to be a "luxury medium sedan"...basically a cheapo version of a BMW...so they had alot of fancy little extra's that were nice, and sure i wouldnt mind them in my VY S, but u definately dont miss the little extra's when you put the foot down on a commodore haha, i sold my vectra a couple of days after new years after recently replacing the starter motor, battery and heater tap, n that was it for me, i knew it was only downhill from there so i booted it to the curb lol...not a very well thought out car...kinda just designed by 10 seperate teams then all thrown into a bag at the end of the day...i feel sorry for the guy that bought it a little cos hes got some interesting years ahead of him owning that

[ma1green]

I know what you mean about the Vectra, it did have some nice extra's but like I said above it wasn't anywhere near as good as the Commodore. Saying that I had a lot of fun doing a few mods to the Veccy, ie putting the led's in the dash, switches, changing the black plastic door handles to colour coded ones and of course the total closure which was so easy to do.

[Villan_au]

You can get the kit your after on ebay for about $100 AUD you have to look under VY, it was done for the rag heads in SA as the commodore was shipped to them as a chev

[ma1green]

Now now boys, let's calm down lol.


PS. I'm actually in Victoria, so you can stop fighting over where I am :-)

[cewing]

back on track, wouldnt the auto closing feature be a royal pain on a 45* summers day?
Face would melt off when u opened the door!

[STEALTHY™]

back on track, wouldnt the auto closing feature be a royal pain on a 45* summers day?
Face would melt off when u opened the door!

Depends, i never leave my windows open, unless its behind the rollerdoor, or in the carpark at work (automated gates). If its at the shops etc, its always locked up completely. I'm not going to go to the effort of fitting it, but i wouldn't 'not' use it if my cars had it.

[Farlig]

I have full autoclosure on my vy clubby, part of the addon alarm.

Its another one of those things that get people saying "oi left your lights on" or "left your windows down" i just lol and say no i havent... they look stupid few seconds later when lights switch off and windows go up lol

[STEALTHY™]

I have full autoclosure on my vy clubby, part of the addon alarm.

Its another one of those things that get people saying "oi left your lights on" or "left your windows down" i just lol and say no i havent... they look stupid few seconds later when lights switch off and windows go up lol

You weren't too clear there, its part of the factory alarm, or an aftermarket alarm?

[Benboy]

Australian Design Rules 42/04 General Safety Requirements


2. WINDOWS AND VENTILATION

2.1. General Requirements
At least half the number of windows must be capable of being opened or the vehicle must be provided with an alternative method of ventilation.
2.2. Ventilation
2.2.1. Omnibuses and N-group vehicles must be provided with a means of ventilation other than by means of windows and door openings.
2.2.2. Except in the case of omnibuses equipped with flow-through ventilation or refrigerated air-conditioning, the provision of an inlet air vent and at least two rotary vents or a hatch in the roof towards the rear of the passenger compartment as a means of ventilation is deemed to meet the provisions of this clause.
2.3. Power Operated Window Systems
2.3.1. Power operated window systems (for vehicles of category passenger car (MA); forward-control passenger vehicle (MB); and off-road passenger vehicle (MC) only)
2.3.1.1. “Power Operated Windows” are windows which are opened and closed by electric, hydraulic or pneumatic means.
2.3.2. Control of Operating Mechanism
2.3.2.1. Operation of power operated window systems must only be possible when the key that controls activation of the vehicle’s engine is in the “ON”, “START” or “ACCESSORY” position.
2.3.2.1.1. Exceptions are:
2.3.2.1.1.1. When the ignition switch has been actuated from “ON” to “OFF” position and/or the key has been removed and no front doors on the vehicle have been opened; or
2.3.2.1.1.2. When the key to lock the driver’s door is in the door lock; or
2.3.2.1.1.3. Upon activation by a key locking system on the exterior of the vehicle; or
2.3.2.1.1.4. When the ignition key has been removed the power operated window system may:
2.3.2.1.1.4.1. remain operational for not more than 45 seconds; and
2.3.2.1.1.4.2. if the driver’s window is operated within the 45 seconds period, the windows can remain operational for an additional period of not more than 45 seconds, after activation of the driver’s window switch; and
2.3.2.1.1.4.3. if the driver’s door is opened within the 45 seconds period, the power operated window system can remain operational for an additional period of not more than 45 seconds, after the opening of the driver’s door.
2.3.2.1.1.5. Remote closing is allowable through continuous operation of a remote actuation device provided that the remote actuation device must be incapable of closing the power window from a distance of more than 11 m from the vehicle.

2.3.2.2. For operation of rear window switches which are not situated in close proximity of the driver, the system must be designed to enable the driver to:
2.3.2.2.1. turn off the switch(es) of the closing mechanism(s) of the rear window(s); and
2.3.2.2.2. initiate opening of the rear window(s).
2.3.2.3. Requirement of clause 19.3.2.2.2 assumes that the rear window switch(es) which are situated out of the driver’s reach, will not be operated.
2.3.2.4. Only momentary type switches or valves must be used for operating mechanisms to close power operated windows except for the driver’s door window.
2.3.2.5. The requirements of clause 19.3.2.1 and clause 19.3.2.4 are not applicable if:
2.3.2.5.1. the closing movement of a power window starts at an opening not exceeding 4 mm, or
2.3.2.5.2. the closing of a power window of a vehicle’s door without upper door frame closes from an opening not exceeding 12 mm whenever the pertinent door is closed.
2.3.2.6. Notwithstanding clauses 19.3.2.1 and 19.3.2.4, a power operated window system may close if it is capable of the following requirements:
2.3.2.6.1. while closing, the window reverses direction before exerting a pinch force of 100N or more within the range of 200 mm to 4 mm beneath the top edge of the power window frame.
2.3.2.6.2. upon such reversal, the window must open to one of the following positions:
A position that permits a cylindrical rod 200 mm in diameter to be placed through the opening at the top edge of the window.
A position that is at least as open as the position at the time closing was initiated.
A position at least 50 mm more open than the position at the time reversing was initiated.
2.3.2.6.3. To check these devices, a measuring instrument/test rod is placed through the window ‘Opening’ from the inside of the vehicle such that the cylindrical surface of the rod contacts the structure which forms the boundary of the window. The force/deflection ratio of the measuring instrument/test rod must be at least 10 N/mm. Placements of the test rods are illustrated in Figure 6.
2.3.2.6.4. The technical requirements of FMVSS 118-FR VOL36 No. 232-02.12.1971- Power Operated Window System; as amended by FMVSS 118-FR VOL58 No. 60-31.03.1998 are deemed to be equivalent to the technical requirements of clause 18.3 of this national standard.

Any (ANY) modification(s), unless approved to ADR standards, that change/alter/modify any aspect of your vehicle from the ADR standards/requirements that existed at the time of manufacture of your vehicle are ILLEGAL.

[VYMAD]

Well my stock VY doesn't comply as I can turn off the key, remove the key, open the door and still operate the power windows for a while until the bcm turns everything off!

[levymetal]

think you missed

2.3.2.1.1.4.1. remain operational for not more than 45 seconds; and

my car does the same, i read the manual and from memory you had 40 seconds to close the windows after opening the doors. otherwise it's like 40 minutes if you don't open a door

[VYMAD]

OH thank you....... DOH!

[Delish-VY]

when i had the auto-closing on my vectra it only did it when i used the key to lock it n ide hold it turned to the left for about 3-4 seconds, then it would close all the windows, so you still had the option to leave them open if it was a hot day n trusted the area you were in

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

Benboy, you missed the exceptions bit.....

[Villan_au]

If you could not find it on ebay i did it for you.

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You are bidding for a Brand New VY VZ Commodore Window Closing Module wich is now available in Australia. This Window Closing Module adds the luxury of your power windows closing at a touch of your standard GM VY VZ Holden Commodore Remote control. This new Commodore power window Closing Module is now suited for the new VY VZ Holden Commodore BCM (Body Control Module) and connects to your Factory GM remotes.Your Commodore windows will lift up one by one till all window s are closed. You will never have to close your power windows before you get out of the car again.

Our Power Window Modules are designed to only operate when you double lock your GM remote control, so if you need to leave your Commodore windows open on a hot day you can by locking your Commodore door with one press of your lock button on you GM remote control. So when you need to do a full close with doors & windows you press twice on your lock button on your GM remote Control.
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[BarraSpalding]

Seems like even on the vectra it was more effort to have to put the key in the door and hold it left for 4 seconds... seems alot easier to still be in the car and click a button to close the windows... then get out, lock the doors as your walking away...

[STEALTHY™]

Seems like even on the vectra it was more effort to have to put the key in the door and hold it left for 4 seconds... seems alot easier to still be in the car and click a button to close the windows... then get out, lock the doors as your walking away...

Keep in mind you can set an aftermarket alarm for do it for you on the remote (and the opposite when you come back to the car, plus remote starting the car for you)

[Delish-VY]

yeah with the vectra i never bothered because the windows had auto-up and auto-down features anyway, so u could hit the buttons for about a second n they'd go all the way down or up, so yeah it was more effort than it was worth, i didnt even know about it until a month or so before i got rid of it, just did it once when one of my mates was getting out of the car "hes like ...your just gonna leave your windows down around here?" im like...naahh watch this LOL, he was like..."thats just rediculous what could you possibley need that for"...and he was right...most pointless extra feature ever