Brake pads and ...

[djonty]

Guys

I need new brake pads and possibly the drums machined. What sort of cost I'm looking at? Can you suggest any good places to get it done in either Liverpool or Granville.

Thanks in advance

Jonty

[Sean880]

I would just go to NRMA Motor Serve in Liverpool. Here.....Car Service Centre Liverpool | NRMA MotorServe
Just ring around for some quotes for the same work and part brands but you will find Motor Serve reasonable.

Also look at replacing the worn rotors rather than machining them. Machining just makes them thinner and much more liable to warp and give you brake shudder. New quality front rotors can be bought for around $80 each but just removing and machining the old rotors and refitting them will cost you at least $50 each rotor. Cost wise it does not make sense to machine old commodore rotors when new ones are not expensive.

The cost of brake pads varies greatly depending on what you buy.

[Darcon666]

Guys

I need new brake pads and possibly the drums machined. What sort of cost I'm looking at? Can you suggest any good places to get it done in either Liverpool or Granville.

Thanks in advance

Jonty

Our cars(Holden Commodores) don't have drums brakes. lol

If your ride is not a HSV with performance/premium brakes setup.... then just replace the rotors & the pads.... I would go for slotted Rotors from DBA http://www.dba.com.au/node/5334 as the cost above stock in minor/minimal + pads.

[wortus]

I'd suggest getting new rotors, I would not bother machining old ones. You can get RDA or simlar fairly cheap just look on e-bay as a price guide. Brake pads the AC Delco ones Holden dealers sell are meant to be good and they are about 1/2 the price of genuine.

[Bravotwozero]

I would just go to NRMA Motor Serve in Liverpool. Here.....Car Service Centre Liverpool | NRMA MotorServe
Just ring around for some quotes for the same work and part brands but you will find Motor Serve reasonable.

Also look at replacing the worn rotors rather than machining them. Machining just makes them thinner and much more liable to warp and give you brake shudder. New quality front rotors can be bought for around $80 each but just removing and machining the old rotors and refitting them will cost you at least $50 each rotor. Cost wise it does not make sense to machine old commodore rotors when new ones are not expensive.

The cost of brake pads varies greatly depending on what you buy.

What's this warping you speak of? Never seen a warped rotor in my life. Shudder is caused by pad transference on to the rotor, not from warping. As for slotted rotors, all they'll do is make your brakes noisy.

[gslrallysport]

What's this warping you speak of? Never seen a warped rotor in my life. Shudder is caused by pad transference on to the rotor, not from warping.

QUOTED FOR ABSOLUTE TRUTH!!!!!!!!

Rotors don't warp. Word. It's either an uneven layer of pads material on the rotor (as you said), or more commonly with Commodores, wheel bearings.

[vr1uz-fe]

commodores do have drums

rotors can warp but mostly when there is rappid temp change

why mechanics machine is to true the face and to get rid of glazing and grooving like said there is pad vairiation im not going into detail but is to do with the calipers

now machining will make the rotor more cepceptable to warping but it is uncommon

but stopping distance is reduced with a thinner rotor

[Darcon666]

commodores do have drums

rotors can warp but mostly when there is rappid temp change

why mechanics machine is to true the face and to get rid of glazing and grooving like said there is pad vairiation im not going into detail but is to do with the calipers

now machining will make the rotor more cepceptable to warping but it is uncommon

but stopping distance is reduced with a thinner rotor

Ummm... If I am mistaken so be it and I am sorry for the mis-information. However I believe from the VT onwards there are no Drum brakes... and this bloke(according to his profile..) has a VY Executive, NO Drums.

[vr1uz-fe]

well you are quite rite there but when measuring the hand brake drum it is reffered to as a drum or drum in hat and has a max diameter

but they dont wear out fast i have never seen one worn

[Bravotwozero]

commodores do have drums

rotors can warp but mostly when there is rappid temp change

why mechanics machine is to true the face and to get rid of glazing and grooving like said there is pad vairiation im not going into detail but is to do with the calipers

now machining will make the rotor more cepceptable to warping but it is uncommon

but stopping distance is reduced with a thinner rotor

Rotors do not warp full stop.

[vr1uz-fe]

mate your joking right how do you know this who told you because a chife engineer at pbr told me they do he did say it hardly happens and main cause would be a 4wd hitting water after a hill decent

but are you a mechanic i am so if your not i think you should learn a bit about brakes in fact even if you are a mechanic you should lear some more

[Bravotwozero]

Show me a warped rotor!

[vr1uz-fe]

well i did say there very hard to come buy

and you cant see warping at that scale

but yes you are right most mechanics say there warrped when they are actually just worn uneven and like i said im not going into how it happens i would rather i know this and not you

[excalibur]

i would like to see one

[Bravotwozero]

well i did say there very hard to come buy

and you cant see warping at that scale

but yes you are right most mechanics say there warrped when they are actually just worn uneven and like i said im not going into how it happens i would rather i know this and not you

Proof or stfu

[djonty]

Thanks for all the replies guys, much appreciated.

I found these on ebay: Commodore VT VU VX VY VZ Full Set Slotted Brake Rotors - eBay Discs, Brakes, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 28-Aug-10 23:14:56 AEST)

Mine is a VY Series 2 executive,
Will it be a straight swap? With ne pads, offcourse!!
Will I be able to do it myself or should I take it to a pro?

[chargedvx6]

Thanks for all the replies guys, much appreciated.

I found these on ebay: Commodore VT VU VX VY VZ Full Set Slotted Brake Rotors - eBay Discs, Brakes, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 28-Aug-10 23:14:56 AEST)

Mine is a VY Series 2 executive,
Will it be a straight swap? With ne pads, offcourse!!
Will I be able to do it myself or should I take it to a pro?

That's a fair deal. I would ask them to substitute the pads to Bendix DB1331 (front) and DB1332 (rear). If they charge you an extra $40 or so fair enough but IMO you will be wasting those rotors using an average quality pad like the RDA pads they offer

[maccasparks]

So slotted rotors are noisey - and no better performance? I was thinking of getting some with Police pads next brake service. Anyone else got that set up - comments please.

[Darcon666]

Oh, BTW.... re: Noise from slotted discs....

These are mine.... NOT even a hint, nada, nil bit of noise and the performance compared to the stock R8 brakes I had is easily an increase of 30% better performance(This is using the "By the seat of my pants-o-meter...)

[NonStick Squid]

Hey djonty could you let me know what you think of these cause im gonna need to do mine soon.

Cheers,
Martin

[wortus]

What's this warping you speak of? Never seen a warped rotor in my life. Shudder is caused by pad transference on to the rotor, not from warping. As for slotted rotors, all they'll do is make your brakes noisy.

The slotted rotors help to prevent the pads glazing up and th eslots let any outgassing from the pad escape though them instead of trying to push the pad of the rotor. They will also reduce stopping distance. I have them front and back on my VY and used to run them on the front of my VN with no problems but yes they can make a bit more noise.

[wortus]

Thanks for all the replies guys, much appreciated.

I found these on ebay: Commodore VT VU VX VY VZ Full Set Slotted Brake Rotors - eBay Discs, Brakes, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 28-Aug-10 23:14:56 AEST)

Mine is a VY Series 2 executive,
Will it be a straight swap? With ne pads, offcourse!!
Will I be able to do it myself or should I take it to a pro?

Its fairly easy, you just need to make sure you remove every last bit of rust and scale from your hub surfaces that the rotors sit on. If you don't the rotors may not run true and you will get some shudder. I've replaced a few and the easiest way is to get a set of wire wheels for an elecreic drill and clean them up until they are bright and shiny. Put a very thin coating of some high temp grease around the centre bit that sticks out then put the new rotor on. You may want to paint the outside of the hub part for looks but don't paint the inside. The new rotors need to be cleaned with metho to remove the rust preventative coating before use.
As far ag gettign the old ones off just remove the calipers and hang them to one side and the old rotors will just slide off unless they are stuck on with rust. You can give them a light tap while turning them but don't bash them coz you may stuff the bearings. When fitting new pads you just have to push the pistons back onto the claipers far enough you can use an old brake pad and a G clamp.

[Bravotwozero]

Oh, BTW.... re: Noise from slotted discs....

These are mine.... NOT even a hint, nada, nil bit of noise and the performance compared to the stock R8 brakes I had is easily an increase of 30% better performance(This is using the "By the seat of my pants-o-meter...)

You have bigger rotors and calipers. Putting slots into standard sized Holden rotors is a waste of time and money. I have tried several different rotors on my SS and the slots offered no advantage. Waste of money imo.

[wortus]

You have bigger rotors and calipers. Putting slots into standard sized Holden rotors is a waste of time and money. I have tried several different rotors on my SS and the slots offered no advantage. Waste of money imo.

There not a waste of money IMO and experience they do provide an improvement as noted by many others (check other posts on this forum) and on many web sites see below for an example!

RDA slotted rotors provide a cost effective solution to improve the stopping performance
of any make or model of motor vehicle with the following engineered characteristics

•Increased dissipation of water, dust and road grime from the contact area of your
braking system.

•Improved integrity of the pad and rotor surface, through deglazing of the contact area.

•Directional slotting surface also combats “out-gassing” which is caused by gas from the
brake pad bonding agent forming a cushion between your pad and rotor and
thereby reducing pad “bite”.

http://www.rdabrakes.com.au/index.php/rotors.html

[Bravotwozero]

If you want to believe the marketing spin then be my guest. Unfortunately not many people want to admit they've been conned. I currently have QFM rotors (no slots) and QFM pads. Previously had DBA slotted with Bendix Ultimate then QFM pads. My current setup have as much bite as the slotted rotors did but now I have less noise. Like the '2 hole mod' there is lots of hype with little substance.