How can i add traction control to a Stock VY Executive?

[croat_soldier]

Im not too sure about this but ive read its as easy as fitting in the t/c switch but wouldn't i need a whole new abs/ t/c module? Any help would be great, cheers

[davey g-force]

Umm, you won't find any help in this section mate!

[rch-13z]

moved to correct section

[croat_soldier]

sorry about that, im new to this forum but not with commodores :P

[tooslow]

it cud b dne but u willen to shit load of money 2 get in your car

[Calaber]

it cud b dne but u willen to shit load of money 2 get in your car

Tooslow

This isn't your mobile phone, so don't text.

[tooslow]

Tooslow

This isn't your mobile phone, so don't text.

thanks i will keep that in mind next time

[Fletch_QLD]

It would be cheaper - and a much better result - to fit an LSD. Of all the features the Calais has over the Exec, traction control is the one you are not missing out on.

[Surfwagon]

The traction control on my LS2 makes stuff all difference, still spins the tyres.
Driven in the wet without it and didn't feel any worse for taking off from standstill.
Lot of better mods to spend your money on.
as said above a good LS diff would help heaps and while your at it maybe change your diff gears to something like 3.46.

[Fletch_QLD]

Surely there is something wrong with your traction control if the wheels still spin? That would be like if your wheels still lock up and you had ABS.

[HoldenOnn]

Traction Control will not stop every bit of wheel spin. Have you seen top gear and heard them go on about some cars traction control being too aggresive and stopping all fun whilst switched on, whereas some other cars allow the wheels to be a little bit more happy before stepping in to stop the fun. Traction control on different cars/makes can behave very very differently.

Edit: Oh, and to the Original Poster.....its not worth the expense of trying to put traction control onto your car. Drive less aggressively and you will not require traction control. But if you do want traction control, then sell your car and go and buy an Acclaim/Berlina/Calais/SV6 etc that come with traction control. Cars are so cheap nowadays that it doesn't cost the earth to buy a car with the features you want.
For example, I picked up my 2004 VZ 190kw White Calais with 88k on the clock in great condition 18 months ago for $15k. There are bargains around. Just got to look. I would never buy anything other than a Berlina/Calais Spec Holden now as these come with all the fruit like climate control, ESP or traction, Power everthing, etc etc.

For your info check specs of cars here;

http://www.users.on.net/~nweber/commodore/

[davey g-force]

Traction Control will not stop every bit of wheel spin. Have you seen top gear and heard them go on about some cars traction control being too aggresive and stopping all fun whilst switched on, whereas some other cars allow the wheels to be a little bit more happy before stepping in to stop the fun. Traction control on different cars/makes can behave very very differently.

Yeah but T/C on VY's (if working correctly) pretty much does stop all wheel spin. I'm talking from experience on my old VY SS.

The wheels will spin for a split second, then engine power is cut and the throttle pushes back on your foot like a MF. It's a pretty primitive system and a general PITA.

[Surfwagon]

Surely there is something wrong with your traction control if the wheels still spin? That would be like if your wheels still lock up and you had ABS.

No there is nothing wrong with the traction control, just that it was originally set for thr std engine and the LS2 just overpowers it.
Road testers for MOTOR and Wheels back in 04/05 found the same thing, in a straight out drag start the wheels would still go up in smoke with too much throttle.

[HoldenOnn]

Yeah but T/C on VY's (if working correctly) pretty much does stop all wheel spin. I'm talking from experience on my old VY SS.

The wheels will spin for a split second, then engine power is cut and the throttle pushes back on your foot like a MF. It's a pretty primitive system and a general PITA.

That is exactly correct as I have previously said. Different cars with traction control have different characteristics. Some cars stop quite alot of wheelspin from occuring, whereas others allow alot of wheel spin before even thinking of kicking in and stopping the fun.

My VZ Calais has traction incorporated into the ESP program which is alot smarter system (don't think for a minute am I saying its the ultimate, buts its better than the VY's). Although I drive sedate and never engage the ESP/TC, when I have done a little bit of testing in the past, I find that the ESP seems to be less intrusive and you don't really know that its doing its job as much as the VY's due to other features such as CBC (corner brake control) etc. The VY had a more primitive system and did make the pedal push back onto the foot which is not a good feeling. My mate had a VY Calais for years with TC. The VZ seems to be alot less intrusive at times, but it isn't perfect.

The ESP though on the VZ's are amazing. I have done testing as this is my 1st car with ABS and with ESP. I have done ABS and ESP testing. ABS is amazing. Wet road, 80km/h and just hit the stop pedal and the car just comes to a stop with little fuss. Then with ESP, I have tried this also and its impossible to flick back end out even on wet roads or even going through roundabouts quicker. As you go through a roundabout, you hear the CBC working on the brakes of the car and keeping it going exactly where you need to and not spinning out. I love it.

This isn't how I drive on the roads all the time, I did some testing just so I got the know the car and its limitations.

Check below in the link about half way down the page and you will see info about the ESP on the VZ's:

Holden VZ Commodore / Calais - Media Release

[croat_soldier]

The car already has LSD but thats not good enough, as mentioned its no where near as good as t/c. Thanks anyways

[Kingston_99]

why put traction control in a car??? stops all the fun. usauly you find people ask more questions about takeing them off...LOL

[mattgreen]

he cant drive if he needs traction controll lol

[Kingston_99]

he cant drive if he needs traction controll lol

or he has a very heavy foot that he leg muscles get sore so he rests it on the peddle....

[jayso92]

well i got a 03 vy storm AUTO any apparently it has T/C but now im not to sure how it works, my brother has a 03 vy Spack also AUTO and i drove his last night and felt what T/C actually does and mine is nothin like his, his does like everyone says and lets a little spin of the wheels but then cuts out power and pushes the pedall back, do the same thing in my car and there is not engine cutout or pedall feedback, i pulled out the T/C fuse from under the steering the dash warning comes on and it doesnt seem to make all that much difference at all as far as letting wheels spin....
does this mean mine doesnt have T/C or what?

ps, u do not want T/C lol PITA

[Dr HaxZaw]

Surely there is something wrong with your traction control if the wheels still spin? That would be like if your wheels still lock up and you had ABS.

i got a vy s2 and the t/c is pretty much a POS... wheels spin so it cuts the power and then it drops all the power back as soon as the wheels stop spinning... guaranteed to chug you across an intersection in the wet if you take off to aggressive
however never admit that you turn it off and just control the wheelspin as some douche will then say that youve lost control of your car and are driving like are hoon... at least thats what happened to me in a different post although im pretty sure the fact that im a p plater makes me a hoon anyway... if youve got an auto i cant see the need for it really but in a manual i can kinda understand

[Fletch_QLD]

I have VY II and like Haxzaw says - you have to be careful or you chug across intersections in the wet - I feel it is easier to control takeoff spin without t/c than it is with t/c. However, I do feel safer in the knowledge that the car has t/c when teh missus drives my car in the wet.

The worst thing is turning t/c off - and forgetting it is off.

[RiCeY]

No there is nothing wrong with the traction control, just that it was originally set for thr std engine and the LS2 just overpowers it.
Road testers for MOTOR and Wheels back in 04/05 found the same thing, in a straight out drag start the wheels would still go up in smoke with too much throttle.

You cant "overpower" a traction control system as its electronically controlled not mechanically.

I believe you can change how aggresive and intrusive it is with aftermarket tuning or turn it off altogether.

[soop]

The TC on my VY SS is crap. Safer to have it off in the wet. Sometimes it won't let my car move (Much) or it stops me in the middle of an intersection. I would rather the wheels spin a bit.

[brokenikon]

Interesting. I've found on the ve that the traction control likes to flash at me when it doesn't work. Usually Ive already worked that out,what with the sideways corner and all. I think it's ability to help stabilise the car only goes so far before it works out the driver is a complete idiot (me) and says "fine, go kill yourself then, I'm off for a drink"
I'm guessing it will be the same in the Maloo. In short, automatic control is a poor substitute for driving ability

[S.T.K.E]

The TC on my VY SS is crap. Safer to have it off in the wet. Sometimes it won't let my car move (Much) or it stops me in the middle of an intersection. I would rather the wheels spin a bit.

+1 on that. Nothing worse then having it happen. I have it happen alot when i am cornering at T-Intersections. It's so sensitive.