want to get some HID's

[Nic92]

ok so my friend has 1200k hid's in his ute and i have seen them and they look so nice but a bit to bright for my liking and i have seen under his hood so i no u need some box thing called a ballast or something, i no theres some cheap 15 dollar fake ones from hong kong on ebay but i wanna get the proper kit

anyway i dont know anything else about them except what i have mentioned ^ so i am looking at getting some 8000k hid's, maybe get high beam aswell but dont really care if i get them or not, i am currently looking at 8000K H4 BI XENON HID KIT FOR HOLDEN VL-VN-VR-VS-VT-VY | eBay something like that, is that what i need? also if you dont mind telling me what number the bulb is for low and high beam because i seen some other ones with different H* numbers so.. i also saw another thread in the general section but i didnt understand it and this is for my vy so i thought id post it in the vy section

thanks

[markER717]

That kit sounds exactly like what your after mate, H4 is the bulb type you'll be looking for and H1 if you want to get the individual high beam bulb in HID too.

[Nic92]

ok thanks for letting me know, also the dealer has a different pack with Projecter Lamp, what are they ? just curious

[markER717]

To legally run HIDs you need Projector lenses, which stops the light from the HIDs scattering (hard to aim) and possibly blinding other drivers. The projector lenses makes sure the light from the HIDs goes where it should, I'd recommend getting them if you plan on running HIDs.

[Nic92]

To legally run HIDs you need Projector lenses, which stops the light from the HIDs scattering (hard to aim) and possibly blinding other drivers. The projector lenses makes sure the light from the HIDs goes where it should, I'd recommend getting them if you plan on running HIDs.

im a little confused, so i would need to buy both of these?> H11 SLIM XENON HID KIT FOR VY COMMODORE PROJECTOR LAMP | eBay 8000K H4 BI XENON HID KIT FOR HOLDEN VL-VN-VR-VS-VT-VY | eBay

[markER717]

Wel its hard to explain, but, look at your car, you will see, when you put low beam on, the large bulb and the small parker will be on, when you flick to high, another light turns on as well, you dont need to get a hid for that one, but you can if you'd like.

[Nic92]

Wel its hard to explain, but, look at your car, you will see, when you put low beam on, the large bulb and the small parker will be on, when you flick to high, another light turns on as well, you dont need to get a hid for that one, but you can if you'd like.

yeah i know that but them 2 kits, they look the same just different bulbs? and one is h11 and h4 didnt find a h4 lamp projector, im like so noob at this lol

im confused about the whole lamp thing

[acarmody]

Ok so you need some projector headlights, than the HID kit (8000k would be way to blue, would have greatly reduced vision, and would do SFA in the rain, 5300k is generally the best)

So let me do you a maths formula.

NEW Holden VY Berlina Projector Headlights Left + Right | eBay

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H4 H/L HID Philips PL Kit - HOLDEN VY/VZ w/ Reflector | eBay

+



+



=

[wraith]

Nice way of putting it :P Do the VY's have H4's thought high and low beam were different.

[MAG00]

im confused about the whole lamp thing

There are two types of lamps/lenses/whatever.

1) Reflector lamps. Go have a look at your car with the lights on, you'll notice that it reflects at many angles off of the silver mirror at the back of the headlight. If you put a high power, bright HID light into this the light scatters like mad, in many directions and more than likely into the eyes of oncoming drivers=illegal, annoying and possibly deadly.

2) Projector lamps. Projector lamps are a different shaped enclosure for the like. Its bullet shape allows it to project light into the desired direction (ahead of you), without scattering it at many angles.

yeah i know that but them 2 kits, they look the same just different bulbs? and one is h11 and h4 didnt find a h4 lamp projector, im like so noob at this lol

Once again, if you go look at your headlights on low beam, then change to high beam, you'll notice the high beam comes from a different light.
H4 = low beam bulb
H11 = high beam bulb

With HIDs High beam is a waste of money, unless you use high beam a lot. Most of the time the high beam HIDs don't even fire right up before you've turned them off again.

[Nic92]

ok.. i didnt really want to change the whole head light, i never use the high beam so if it doesnt come with high beam i wont worry about it

[acarmody]

ok.. i didnt really want to change the whole head light, i never use the high beam so if it doesnt come with high beam i wont worry about it

OK so which type of headlight is in your car at the moment, the top on in MAG00's post or the bottom one.

[Nic92]

umm the top 1 i think

i think my friend is using the reflecter ones aswell with the 12000k hid's but his lights are squared on the ute

[acarmody]

Well if you put HIDs in your reflector headlights you will, A) piss everyone off, B) attract police attention, C) possible void any car insurance, D) blind oncoming cars and creating danger for yourself, E) piss everyone else off some more.

Are you sure your mate has 12000k HIDs, because that is purple like this,



For reference,

[Nic92]

yeah he told me 12000k he has them in this head light http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._2329566_n.jpg

i cant remember what he used to have, he said b4 i think between 8-10 (000k) then they blew and he upgraded to 12000k

this is what he had b4 he upgraded

[acarmody]

Yeah those are reflector headlights, but the shape is much more even, it would probably do a bit of a better job than a commodore headlight, but it would still be pretty bad.

Honestly mate I would just scrap the whole HID idea and just get some nice normal bulbs. I have these Philips H4 12v Blue Vision BlueVision + 5w park globes | eBay , cheap and good, or get these, New Ver. +100% H4 Philips X-treme xtreme Vision Bulbs | eBay

You can see my cars lights in this post

[Nic92]

Yeah those are reflector headlights, but the shape is much more even, it would probably do a bit of a better job than a commodore headlight, but it would still be pretty bad.

Honestly mate I would just scrap the whole HID idea and just get some nice normal bulbs. I have these Philips H4 12v Blue Vision BlueVision + 5w park globes | eBay , cheap and good, or get these, New Ver. +100% H4 Philips X-treme xtreme Vision Bulbs | eBay

You can see my cars lights in this post

ok thanks for the links, i will consider it.. it is much cheaper and easier to install

do you have a pic of how it looks on the road?

[acarmody]

Not at the moment. I'll see if I can remember to take one on my way home from work tomorrow night.

[MAG00]

Next step up from the BlueVision are the Crystal Vision. These here are the ones I bought, comes with parkers as well.
I'll go take a photo in a second.
Very easy to install, no need for a ballast or anything, simply replace the globe. For ease of install I would recommend you slip your front bumper off (very easy to do) as explained here.
Then there are 3 or 4 bolts holding the headlights in, simply take them out then the headlight slips out. Remove the loom, unscrew the cover then it should be simple from there. NEVER touch any of the globes with your fingers, it will cause them to blow prematurely (reminds me of something else...). Anyway, put the new globes in and put everything back together in the reverse order. 1 hour job, helps to have a hand to remove the bumper so it doesn't fall onto the ground.

Note: The globes are illegal, not because of the colour, but because of the fact they don't last long enough to meet Quality standards (the cops won't know this anyway).

[MAG00]

My headlight lense needs a buff

Parkers:


Low Beam:


When at eye level with the low beam they appear blue, otherwise they are white.

Bear in mind the Phillips globes progress like so: BlueVision<CrystalVision<DiamondVision in order of "blueness" and cost.
Yellow, but less than stock<White, blue tinge<Blue
The whiter/bluer the light, the less effective it is in fog and the smaller distance it travels.

[wraith]

To legally run HIDs you need Projector lenses, which stops the light from the HIDs scattering (hard to aim) and possibly blinding other drivers. The projector lenses makes sure the light from the HIDs goes where it should, I'd recommend getting them if you plan on running HIDs.

Your wrong. What your after is something like the +100s they have. The crystal visions etc are just for looks more then anything.

[Nic92]

ok so i asked myfriend if i needed projecter lights and this is wat he said: na you only need projector headlights if your buying the whole housing which comes with a projector globe

umm i think i will just get the globes for now then il get hid's when i've actually got a job so i can change the hole head light aswell

[acarmody]

ok so i asked myfriend if i needed projecter lights and this is wat he said: na you only need projector headlights if your buying the whole housing which comes with a projector globe

umm i think i will just get the globes for now then il get hid's when i've actually got a job so i can change the hole head light aswell

What the? Projector globe? The globes are the same, the different designs project the light onto the road differently. Reflector headlights scatter the light onto the road in a very wide pattern, lighting up a lot of road but not concentrated. Projector headlights, ;project' the light onto a small area of the road in front of you, this makes the light more intense and allows you to see further out.

[Nic92]

so a projector one like this?

he said projection globes they are alot sharper and crisper and cover more distance, so im like wtf 2 people saying 2 different things

[wraith]

Which is why low is usually projector and high stays normal :P