E10

[Lafanter]

is it ar rite to use in VY commodres
any power difference or impact on engine in long run
advantages/dis advantages ?

[trentvy]

its not bad but for the price it is mate stick with regular

[Lafanter]

3 cents cheaper than regular ULP ?
is that bad ?

[trentvy]

im a tight ass but heck for that you may aswel try it

[Fr3ak+--]

e10 is perfectly fine to use in it.. its only bad for cars that are really old

[Flat_White]

just get LPG mate,

it is pure gold.

[VYMAD]

I wouldn't put my car within 100 metres of E10, they are not designed to run on ethanol additives, have also heard some bad stories of major damage done by it. For the few cents a litre difference, I would steer well clear of the stuff! In my handbook it reads that using any more than 10 percent ethanol voids your warranty so holden must design them to be able to be driven on them for a few years until warranty runs out but what after that?? They have to say that E10 is ok to use to meet strict environmental standards. Oh yeh and i've been told that it eats into rubber components in the fuel system.

[Surfwagon]

Here a few a few facts I read about E10 when my son started using it in his XR6.
All cars built after the introduction of E10 into Australia can run on it with no detriment to rubber hoses etc (can't remember year but it's atleast 3-4 yrs ago and maybe longer).
Yes it is cheaper but you need more ethanol blend to make same power as per straight petrol, there fore E10 doesn't get as good L'100klms as does normal petrol.
The difference is only small (no more than 2l/100klms at most)so you would need to work out cost per klm for each fuel to actually see which is cheaper to use.
I have read tests that have shown 94/5 octane E10 seems to have better anti-knock properties than does similar 95 octane premium.
I personally won't use it in my other car (Nissan Pulsar) and I have to use 98 in my super6 and won't use use Shell 100 because I'm not sure how my fuel lines and hoses might react with the ethanol.

[rokkz]

Been in the petroleum game for many years.
Nothing wrong with E10, rubbers etc will have no problems.

However, E10 holds water

Cheers

[Fekason]

Holden confirms that the E10 is suitable for the VY. In fact, most Holdens built after 1986 are suitable.

E10 has a slightly higher octance rating than ULP.

Ethanol has a 30% lower calorific value than ULP. Therefore, barring effects from the higher octane rating (would only affect high performance cars), E10 will use 3% more fuel than ULP. With ULP at $1.50 or so average, the reduction for E10 would need to be 4.5 cents per litre to break even. Thus you will not save money by using E10.

[mihas]

Funny enough i have ran a full tank ( daring.... lol ) on my VX Calais super6 and this is my observations as follows....
Performance and smoothness as compared to premium is not noticeable although fuel economy was previous sitting around 12.7 and now with E10 i am getting around 12.9 to13.0
I was suprised that car did perform quite well but will not be refilling all the time but will make choices depending on my pocket and alternate between other fuels.

In short so far no complaints

[914]

I sometimes run E10min my Vz and to be honest have not noticed a difference at all! sonce fuel prices have dropped i've been using high oct

[wetwork65]

My cars will not idle properly and fuel consumption (as mentioned above) increases noticeably. This is due to low calorific value of the fuel vs petrol.

Ethanol binds to water - it is very difficult to separate - this is the problem that causes corrosion of car components over an extended period.
Not that it matters but I am a Chemical and Mechanical Engineer as well as a Metallurgist so I like to think I know something about this stuff.

The environmental aspects of ethanol production are questionable due to many reasons
In summary - why would you use it?

[greenacc]

I don't run E10 very often, don't like the way it runs, but all fuel tanks will have a small amount of water in them, and so filling up with E10 once in a while will help pick up the water and flush it through, thereby preventing rust in the tank.