are the vy ss's fast?

[kohan]

i have been in the unfortunate position of never being able to have a ride in the fast car. i have been a car nut my whole life but have been deprived of the feeling of speed. except one ride in an sv6000 (that was awesome, but a very short ride)

things have changed my girlfriend is buying most likely a vy ss. so i am reading up to find out anything that i dont already know about them. but i the two reviews i have read, have left me thinking "does this actually have exciting performance, or not?" the last review i read gave the performance 3 and a half stars. And used to think this car would be a weapon. Now i still think the performance would still be a thrill, but would like to hear from you 5.7l owners.

also if we do get the car, i guess we could consider spending up to a grand on performance (not that its all important for a girl owner). i know quite a lot about cars, but not much about mechanics or performance upgrades, so i would like to hear from you experiences, do you guys recommend ls1 edits and tuning, or exhaust, or whatever else.

thanks

[blaze]

stock ls1s aint that fast. my car will smoke an ls1 n probally beat a vy clubby. buy something that is already modded privately. then again it doesnt take much to make them go quick a good cam and a mafless tune makes a hell of a difference

[adamc11]

The VY SS has the LS1 engine. It has a lot of performance potential but as stock it is not that quick. Basic bolt on mods are... good exhaust (2k) + MAFLESS tune (1k) + OTR intake ($500) will give you around 220-240rwkw over the stock 160-180rwkw (dyno figures depend on type of dyno). For 1k you should just get a MAFLESS tune and retain your stock intake and you will get better economy and a little better performance.

You are welcome to come for a drive in my VY SS manual 6.. i am in airport west. It has a tune and an OTR but i removed the exhaust and it has a standard system. It doesn't go so well after the exhaust was put back to standard but is still better than stock and will give you a rough idea.

[nicko]

adam y did you put the stock exhaust back on?

[H1GHROLLR]

stock ls1 is held back so much by being restricted open it up and they go ok for around $5000 you will see 380-400rwhp using good quality parts too

[adamc11]

adam y did you put the stock exhaust back on?

I'm doing a cam and head package and my tri-y's and twin 2.5" system would have been too small, so sold it and running standard exhaust until i get a twin 3" di filippo system

[vg ute v6]

they dont go to bad for a stock motor though

[soop]

No way, no how will a 5ltr match an LS1.
The LS1 performs at a the 5ltrs peak in standard form.

[H1GHROLLR]

No way, no how will a 5ltr match an LS1.
The LS1 performs at a the 5ltrs peak in standard form.

agree with you on that one mate

[nicko]

*waits for a 5L owner to tell stories of how many LS1's they have mopped the floor with* LOL

[Commyfan]

Stock 304 in any model except VT will be about as quick as a LS1, until after 120k's+

Nicko I did take a fair few LS1's. Manual, plus the weight of a VN SS versus a stock LS1 doesn't make it to hard. This is before the blower.

Back to original question, no VY SS's are not quick unless they have mods.

[kohan]

haha, ok thanks for the tips. remember this car is for my girl so i dont think 400rwhp is too necesary. i just want to make sure if when happen to see some guy in equivelent car or especially a rice burner (she used to like rexy's, yuk), that we have the edge over him, and therefore big smiles.

as i said before i dont know a lot about the mechanics and tuning of a car, i remember reading about remapping, or a tune up or something along those lines. they sounded like good stuff and at good value. you guys know about them?

[stocky]

*waits for a 5L owner to tell stories of how many LS1's they have mopped the floor with* LOL

im sure greenfoam would have a few and i would believe him. as said, a stock ls1 is nothing special, and a lightly modded 5 litre would be comparable to them. then youll have the argument of then modifying the ls1, etc etc. same crap different thread

[kohan]

by the way blaze, i used to luuuve the ultimate warrior, haha!

and unfortunately she wont even consider anything before a vy, not even a vx clubsport, or one of the cheap new monaro's.
so the only thing that fits her pre-requisits is a vy ss which she can only just afford. I would get the vx clubby which i think is better, and can find them cheaper

[greenfoam]

*waits for a 5L owner to tell stories of how many LS1's they have mopped the floor with* LOL

yeah I've never lost a race at the drags to a stock or exhaust only LS1 ever, I've probably raced them 20 times. They just can't do the times my 5 litre does without a tune at least not over the 1/8th mile. Like stocky says, when stock they are quite slow, I've beaten a stock VY R8 quite comfortably too. But once tuned they are too fast for my unopened 5 litre

[TUF UTE]

they are when foamys done with them.

but unless u have about ten grand for mods lol.... get a 304

[adamc11]

Your missus has got it right, don't get the VX. A Clubby is just a Holden with a body kit and a few other little things. Senator, gts and grange, well that's a different story. Stick with the VY, much nicer on the outside and nicer interior as well.

[greenfoam]

Nah VY SS + tune + exhaust is a fast car + cam and you have something very decent indeed

[TUF UTE]

thats still 5 grand there for decent parts and labour

[johnvtls1]

its great that we live in a world were we concider a car that does 0-100 in 6 seconds in stock form slow lol. in all honesty a VY SS will be PLENTY for ur girfriend. My stock VT was still pretty quick though. There is no way anyone should go back to a 304, (No offence guys) but she is an old engine etc and they have sooo much less potential then the ls1, and with so many great workshops around aus specalising in LSX engines its getting cheaper and cheaper to make them really go.

[johnvtls1]

stock ls1s aint that fast. my car will smoke an ls1 n probally beat a vy clubby. buy something that is already modded privately. then again it doesnt take much to make them go quick a good cam and a mafless tune makes a hell of a difference

sorry mate but a stock VY clubby should do the quater in under 14 seconds, id love to see ur vs do that stock standard. Over the 1/8 mile its a diferent story i guess as young greenfoam has already proven.

[stocky]

There is no way anyone should go back to a 304, (No offence guys) .

depends what people are after. if i bought an ls1, my wallet would be empty, i would have to rely on workshops to do all the work on it, and insurance would be higher. instead i picked up a cheap 304, that goes well, sounds good, has cost me almost nothing to modify, and drives well, while leaving plenty of money left over. i dont see an reason to upgrade anytime soon. anyways, dont want to take this thread off tpic

[johnvtls1]

by the way blaze, i used to luuuve the ultimate warrior, haha!

and unfortunately she wont even consider anything before a vy, not even a vx clubsport, or one of the cheap new monaro's.
so the only thing that fits her pre-requisits is a vy ss which she can only just afford. I would get the vx clubby which i think is better, and can find them cheaper

vx clubby is just about the best looking car holdens ever built. get ur mrs into line lol.

[johnvtls1]

depends what people are after. if i bought an ls1, my wallet would be empty, i would have to rely on workshops to do all the work on it, and insurance would be higher. instead i picked up a cheap 304, that goes well, sounds good, has cost me almost nothing to modify, and drives well, while leaving plenty of money left over. i dont see an reason to upgrade anytime soon. anyways, dont want to take this thread off tpic

well in ur case you picked up a bargain so i guess i dont blame you for not going an ls1 but i doubt this blokes mrs would be able to work on here car anyways so shes always going to have to pay labour anyways. The ls1 cant be that much harder to work on then the 304 anywways?

[greenfoam]

LS1's easier to get power from than the 5 litre in that (it's alot bigger) and it has a good manifold straight from the factory. Not only that but some of the cars they are in are not alot heavier than the similar VP-VS IRS cars. Once you get up around the 300 rwkw in the LS1's they are stonking fast right from the start line (they sound good at that stage too). No question they are the easiest Commodore to make good times from (even easier than a VL) but you can still make a 5 litre too fast for to hold traction on the street on a very low budget so in the end it doesn't matter too much. I'm not saying it's common for a unopened 5 litre to beat a LS1 as there's probably only a dozen in the country that can consistantly do that, but it can happen .

VY SS = good cheap power but sometimes having an all Australian made in Melbourne engine up front gives you the warm fuzzys