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New Xtreme Clutch problem?
Hey, Just installed The xtreme solid flywheel, kit to my ride, as the old one was RS, however now it is rattly at idle, which goes once you put your foot on the clutch. The main problem though is that in 2nd and 3rd on acceleration there is a shit lound growl/rattle coming from the box, now im aware that replacing the duel mass f/w with a solid one is going to cause these issues, but this bad?? Can some one tell me if this is normal for this conversion?? i also changed the CSC, and the oil with perite SIN 75w90 oil, is this the correct oil for the Asin 6speed? could i dampen it a bit by putting a heavier grade of oil?? anyway id like some advise??, Cheers
Alloytec Racing
by replacing with a SMFW you have removed a damper thus the rattling, depending on the qaulity of the install is is worse, mine makes hardly any sound and i have the same clutch.. so i guess it may be slightly noisy.. it is normal
Life starts at 200km/h
rattle at idle is normal, as for in gear under acceleration noise, mine made some in gear noise but it went away after the first half an hour of driving that part doesn't sound normal to me. as i said mine had a bit of noise in each gear but after i put about 50k's on the clutch that disappeared and never returned. mine rattles at idle but is really no loud then stock once in guaged.
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I't only does it at in the rev range of 1000rpm to 2000rpm under load in 2nd gear and up...Could it be the oil, what does holden recommend for the 6 speed?
Alloytec Racing
just curious, who installed it?
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The Only 6sp VZ Wagon
the oil you used is fine.......
give the clutch a couple hunded km's first and see how you go
EASTERN CREEK JCNSW 2009
Originally Posted by Commydoor
every holden dealer i've called recommend ATF for the sv6 6spd
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my older brother who is a diesel machanic, he's built his race mini, works at jim reads work shop building top fuel motors. And he rebuilds all the navy boat motors. and my dad helped a little bit who has been a diesel machanic 30 years..
The Only 6sp VZ Wagon
aisin spec is 75w-90 though, so yes it is fine,
dexron111 may allow it to shift better, but it wont protect the gearbox aswell as the 75w-90, ive only every heard holden recommend dex111 in the tremec boxes aswell
EASTERN CREEK JCNSW 2009
CHE Tuned 156.8rwkw
How noisy is it?
What???
The Blue One
The Only 6sp VZ Wagon
paul a dmf, generally dampens driveline shock/vibration,
replacing it with a smf, 'can' induce a chatter in the gearbox, thats the name of the game, from what ive been told, more common in the xtreme clutch
EASTERN CREEK JCNSW 2009
CHE Tuned 156.8rwkw
Oh ok, thanx Andrew.
When i heard him say that the rattle is normal in a gearbox, i couldn't stop laughing.
Ill guess ill find out when i get an aftermarket clutch.
The Blue One
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[QUOTE=PaulSV6;1244772]How noisy is it?
It's pritty bad when it under load in 2nd and 3rd at about 1300rpm till 2000rpm then goes away. the gearbox shifts fine and fells fine. Well i took it 4 a cruz yesterday and it seem it doesn't do it when the gearbox oil is still cold but when it gets to running temp it comes and goes at times.
wouldn't a gear oil allow faster shifting then ATF? ATF to my understanding has alot of friction modifier so the sycros would take longer to come up to speed. but having all the friction modifiers plus the fact ATF can handle alot higher temps should result in alot less wear.
The Only 6sp VZ Wagon
but dex111 is roughly 10w-20 grade oil and is more on the hydraulic oil side of things, gear oil being thicker, is more clingy and generally dosnt run back as quick, keeping bearings that are splash lubed, lubed longer then thinner oil, the thinner the easier it is for it to squeeze out of componenets, eg, synco etc etc, as such, makes gear shifting easier, syncros brake the surface of the oil quicker, make contact and brake quicker, but at a cost of not protecting the internals as well, but, thats what ive been told by mentors of mine, guys with the expierance, ive learnt from....
really i go by whats recommended unless a dealership can give me a document showing a superceded spec, ill go by the manufactores spec in the book, eg, the tremec box is rated for atf, some rodeo gearboxes are recommended for regular engine oil etc, etc,
monaro, not doubting what the dealer has said to you, but i wouldnt be surprised if the dealers you rang think the v6-v8 boxes are the same, too many times ive talked to someone at a counter or ill informed worker and they've given the wrong spec or information
EASTERN CREEK JCNSW 2009
Chill mate, i had no intension of using the atf in my gearbag. the advice i got from redline was to use an 75w-90 GL4 oil they said dispite the manufacture recommending a GL5 oil they get the best results with a GL4 in the sv6 6spd. they reckon the GL4 oil allows for faster shifting then a GL5 oil.
Mainlube recommended an 75w-90GL5 oil as per spec.stating there GL5 oil will shift just as fast.
Mobil/castrol/penrite/nulon all said i can only use holden's oil in this box which is bs as holden don't make oil so they are buying it some where.
holden dealers say just use atf.
The Only 6sp VZ Wagon
haha, i wasnt even getting worked up lol, i thought you were using atf though, anyway rule of thumb is if it gets hard a shifting you could go higher visco engine oil, if that dosnt free up so good, then go to atf
EASTERN CREEK JCNSW 2009
i'm still using factory stuff. changing it this weekend.
Mate you didn't meantion that you got the button clutch version of the xtreme, button clutchs are normally quite noisy. from my understanding they quieten up when you give them a bit of a thrash so try that. don't go over board just try and get a bit of heat into it.
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