pleaseeeeee .. how to fix intake OTR ??

[dr.lumina]

hi guys ..

how are you ??

please if anyone can help me about my problem ..

my promblem is .. i was bought a cold air intake OTR that above the radiator newone

but i dont know how to fix it ..

i was tried alot & alot & i went to mechanical to do it .. but no benift .. no body has any information about fixing it

pleaseeeeeeeeeeee help me .. if there any pictures or images that can help me

[dr.lumina]

this is my exactly engine for more understanding



thank you

[HoldenOnn]

Can I first say that you are new to the site obviously.....so welcome.

Secondly, there is no need to type in red font in large size with double spacing. Its quite annoying actually.

Thirdly, alot of us have been on this site for a while and have seen new members continually post the questions that have been asked and answered before. Please use the search function. There are threads regarding OTR intakes that will help you.

Again, welcome and please search before posting otherwise myself and others may not be as friendly or helpful in the future

[dr.lumina]

ok my dear
i will do that
thanks for altering me .. and sorry because i am new here
thanks

[dr.lumina]

sorry . but i dont find any thread talk about ( how to fix the intake OTR )

please can any body help me

[andyman]

ive heard you may need to lay the radiator back a fraction by undoing the top mounts for it to fit

[dr.lumina]

ive heard you may need to lay the radiator back a fraction by undoing the top mounts for it to fit

yes i was do that - cut some plastic of radiator to lay the intake - but when i switch on the car it stop of work ..

[Sabbath']

How much of what did you cut off?

[vtcommodo3800]

maybe post some pics of your situation.

[andyman]

yes i was do that - cut some plastic of radiator to lay the intake - but when i switch on the car it stop of work ..

have you got the airflow sensor plugged in, the sensor in the right direction, and if you had to extend the wires, join the wires correctly?

[dr.lumina]

How much of what did you cut off?

i was cut the small portion to i can lay the new intake

the location of intake is ok and it is go to the throttle all right but the problem is the car not work after fixing the new intake ..

thanks for your interest

[dr.lumina]

have you got the airflow sensor plugged in, the sensor in the right direction, and if you had to extend the wires, join the wires correctly?

every thing is ok ..

i was extend the maf wires as ok ..

and put the maf in right direction ..

and close the hole that related to oil vaporation

but no benift

[Nanos]

ok im having hard time converting this all to english.

but without any pics this thread is useless.

[dr.lumina]

these are some pictures of my fixing the intake







the maf is putted in its place as right direction .. and extend its wires

the oil vaporation hole was closed and filter was fixed connected to oil hose

and this is the oil vapor filter i was use it

[Nanos]

unless im wrong but you havnt go tthe maf installed. the first pic is the IAT sender(intake air temp). You should have a sensor between the OTR flange and the throttle body flange. this sensor is the MAF. it looks like a tube with a plug on it for a lead.

[dr.lumina]

immmmmmmmmmmm .. you mean this one ??



this is the maf ( mass air flow sensor ) i was take the inside plug and put it inside the intake as directions

and if i want to install the whole maf ( that with tube like in the previous pic ) noooo space is there

[Nanos]

if the car wont run after these mods it sounds like the maf maybe damaged.

there is no way i would rip the maf aprt, even if a manual said so. they are very sensitive and easy to damage.

try and find a original maf from somewhere, put your standard air box back in and then see if it runs. if it does then you know the maf is the problem

[dr.lumina]

immmmmmmmm ..
no the maf is ok .. not damaged .. the evidance is when i return to the stock intake the car is run perfectly

i dont know what is the cause .so. i search about any pic that talk about any directions to fix otr on vz v6

[Nanos]

the car should run with the otr as long as the maf is installed. there is no real difference between runnig a otr or airbox. im not to sure with the vz but is there a IAT as well. make sure that is connected.

apart from that im out of ideas

[Cod]

Even if the MAF isn't plugged in or not working the car should still start and run, it'll just give you an error beep and run rich? I believe.
If it's not starting at all with the OTR then there has to be something else you've missed, something disconnected or blocked intake somewhere.

[dr.lumina]

Even if the MAF isn't plugged in or not working the car should still start and run, it'll just give you an error beep and run rich? .

exactly like i think & said that .. what is the releashionship between foundation of maf in intake and running of car ??

no releashion at all .. if no there or not work maf the car will run ..

[ScoHar]

Pretty sure you cannot remove the sensors out of the MAF and fit them inside the CAI, the MAF uses sensors that detect certain resistances in airflow but need to be inside the specially cased housing.

it doesn't look like you have the maf connected in those pictures, MAF should have around 4-7 wires (not sure exactly) and that sensor in the picture looks like the IAT, if your not meant to use the maf then you probabley need the computer tuned to not use the MAF sensor and use something else like MAP or the other sensors.

If the MAF is removed it will run very poorly in some instances the car will not run/idle.

Is the car cranking over?

Please use a little better english as im finding it hard to understand you.

basically, NO MAF + CAI = NO RUN, NO MAF + Computer Tune + CAI = RUN

[Nanos]

the maf is a important part of the car. im fairly sure the vz v6 is not like the ls1 that has a second fuel table to fall back on to.

if the maf is not there then the computer can not set the maps needed to run. i could be wrong but i know with my wagon i couldnt just unplug the maf. it would stall the minute i did that. it wasnt till i got my tune done that i could unplug the maf.

[Exidor]

Just to clarify.
The IAT on the Alloytec is
integrated into the MAF.

Reinstall the "old" intake plumbing
and see if you car will start then.

[ScoHar]

Just to clarify.
The IAT on the Alloytec is
integrated into the MAF.

Reinstall the "old" intake plumbing
and see if you car will start then.

Ok so is that the plug for the MAF that he has coming out of his CAI?