HID headlights

[marksy26]

hi guys

just looking to replace my stock headlight globes with HID's but not too sure wat wattage and type of HID to get to fit an 04 calais? im thinking 8000k. should i change the foggie colours aswel?

[the_trademarc]

hi guys

just looking to replace my stock headlight globes with HID's but not too sure wat wattage and type of HID to get to fit an 04 calais? im thinking 8000k. should i change the foggie colours aswel?

I cant remember what wattage my lights were, was that long ago, was a Phillips kit. But I'd definitely recommend changing the fog globes too, because then they look like a pair of old Englishman's eyes in comparison to the whiteness of the HID's.

I've got H3 Crystal Globes in my Fog's, not an exact match, but good enough. Supercheap Auto for 15 bucks, 20 minutes to take the front bumper off and replace the globe.

[LxAdventra]

if looking for highest illumination then 4500K is the go if you want something whiter and bluer the 6000K and anything higher you start going towards purple tint and don't illuminate as much. You can put HID legally into ANY car as long as they have projector head lamps, so after marker high lights from VY down from memory otherwise the VZ calais and HSV models had them.

[marcdon]

You can put HID legally into ANY car as long as they have projector head lamps, so after marker high lights from VY down from memory otherwise the VZ calais and HSV models had them.

wrong mate.
im looking at the ADR right now.

[TVR-190]

Back on topic, the OP never asked if they were legal or not.....


Personally id go 6000 as its a nice white rather than a blue

Heres a colour chart anyway

[2006VZSTORM!!]

are they expensive ?? and are they easy to install hahaa because as you say they look AWESOME!

[Matty-346]

I think the Philips Crystal vision globes are enough, their not HIDs (or the sun as they are known) but they've still got that white light coming from em... I think their 4300k, but im pretty sure anything over 4000k is illegal. They are a massive improvement over the standard ones from the outside look to driving with em...

[Matty-346]

Back on topic, the OP never asked if they were legal or not.....


Personally id go 6000 as its a nice white rather than a blue

Heres a colour chart anyway

I wonder how 15000K's would look as highbeams lol

[minux]

Thread cleaned.

Keep it on topic.

[Benboy]

Motor vehicles have been required to comply with Australian Design Rules

(ADR's) for lighting since October 1991. ADR 13 mandates the number and

position of lamp assemblies, ADR 46 prescribes the photometric requirements of

the lamp itself and ADR 51 is the standard for filament bulbs.

ADR 51 accepts ECE regulation 37 as an alternative standard for filament bulbs

and prescribes the dimensional and photometric requirements for filament bulbs

(including headlamps). This ensures inter-changeability and correct

functioning when installed in a complying lamp unit.

All complying bulbs sold in Australia would be marked with the "E" mark and

possibly the words "Suitable for European Use". The packaging may also

indicate compliance with ADR 51 or ECE 37.

When a replacement complying bulb of the correct type (for example H4 45/60

Watts) for a complying headlamp is fitted to that assembly, the light emitted

will be within the spectral requirements for white light. This will not be in

breach of Section 63 to Schedule 1 of the Transport Operations (Road Use

Management- Vehicle Safety and Standards) Regulation 1999.
Although these lamps are a standard fitment to many newer vehicles, a "blue"

complying lamp can be fitted to a lamp assembly on a vehicle that was not

originally fitted with these bulbs.

It is important to note that ADR 51 limits the power of various bulb types,

and bulbs of a similar style but higher power rating will not comply and

should not be used. For example, the common H4 bulb that has a complying

rating of 45/60 watts, is available in much higher rating of 45/100 watts. The

higher powered bulbs produce more glare and the resulting light pattern would

not comply with the ADR.

Although regulations do not require drivers of pre-1991 vehicles to fit

complying bulbs, consumers should be careful when fitting non-complying "blue"

light bulbs to pre-ADR vehicles, as the resulting light spectrum may fall

outside the standard for white light (that is, the blue frequencies may

predominate).

If a Licenced Examiner suspects that the light output from a headlight appears

blue, the examiner should take appropriate action based on the following

summary tables:

For vehicles manufactured on or after 1 October 1991
• Bulb must be marked.
• Bulb must be the correct wattage.

For vehicles manufactured prior to 1 October 1991
• Bulb does not have to be marked.
• Bulb may be alternative higher wattage.
• Bulb must not show obvious blue light (when viewed directly ahead).

Licenced Examiners Action:
If, during the course of an inspection, Licenced Examiners have cause to

inspect vehicles modified by changing the original lighting componentry

assemblies, they are to ensure that individual vehicles comply with the

previously mentioned details. Modifications of this type
which do not comply with the above requirements are to be rejected

immediately.

Any (ANY) modification(s), unless approved to ADR standards, that change/alter/modify any aspect of your vehicle from the ADR standards/requirements that existed at the time of manufacture of your vehicle are ILLEGAL.

[marcdon]

exactly what i said just alot more in-depth. thanks Ben

[Matty-346]

I see, well i still dont think it should apply to high beams on how bright they are because your not supposed to use them (to put it simply) when anyones around...

*Sounds like whatever you do to your car is going to be illegal anyway so why try..? lol

[TVR-190]

what part of stay on topic didnt you guys understand, he wasn't asking about the legality of them or for a list of Australias ADR's....


How often do you drive with your foggies on marksy, if always id probably get some whiter globes if only occasionally probably not worth the effort. Just get some narva +50s or phillips blue vision globes for the foggies.

[StealthCalais]

VZ Calais [Black Edition]

Have a look at my post, when I got my HID's... got all the info on there.

Colour temperature wise... I went 6000K, I reckon thats the perfect number! Anything lower down the spectrum (eg 5300K or whatever it is seems to be yellow still) and higher (eg 8000K and it just looks stupid and loses brightness). The photos are fairly accurate of what the colour looks like, though I'd say they have a bit more white in them in reality (as they look quite blue in the pics).

Also... SMD LED's for the foggies are an option thats what I got. If you want them purely for looks (they dont actually light up the ground, just look good, and arnt dazzling as some fog/driving lights). Otherwise get a set of those Philips blue vision or crystal vision (or whatever they are called) to match - I might look into getting a set for the foggies.

Hope it helps

[2006VZSTORM!!]

will have a look thanks and ADR's are there Traffic cops will stop you just depends on how bothered they are by it hahahaha

[marcdon]

a little off topic but I just purchased a set of H1 and H4 Philips X-treme power globes and they are fantastic, the best light globe I have ever used. Low beam is bright and has a perfect cut-off line, and high beam is like having a set of spotties on the front. I bought them from
www.powerbulbs.com
UK company, arrived in 5 days. Guys are trying to flog them on Ebay for $63 a set. I got the two sets and a free set of parkers AND free delivery for $80.
I know its off topic but I would say these are the cheapest way to get a great light output

[toey]

Really sorry if this is off topic, but I've been interested in getting HID lights for a while now, but know nothing about it (as usual), so just have a few questions.

1. How do I install them? (I have a VZ)
2. If I get HID for my headlights, then do I have to get an even higher watts for my high beam? Or does it all come in one pack?

[2006VZSTORM!!]

i think there is a post on it somewhere in the DIY section ( i can never find haha) But im sure there will be someone come in here and tell you how. im not too sure either.

But im sure the high beams come with it as a pack

[StealthCalais]

Really sorry if this is off topic, but I've been interested in getting HID lights for a while now, but know nothing about it (as usual), so just have a few questions.

1. How do I install them? (I have a VZ)
2. If I get HID for my headlights, then do I have to get an even higher watts for my high beam? Or does it all come in one pack?

1. Not sure about the executives... but theres two 'caps' on the back of my headlight housing - to enable you to get to the bulb. What I did is drill a hole through the middle of the plastic to get the cables through. You then have to connect everything up - intructiones usally come with the kit. Find a place to mount/store the ballast. Then your good to go. But this will take 40 mins to an hour.

2. Usually the HID kit is only for one set of lights - ie you buy a kit for the low beams (H11 bulbs) If you want a set for high beams youll have to get another set - wattage and colour temp will all be the same you just need a different bulb - (H9 bulbs).

[[ASLYVY]]

1. Not sure about the executives... but theres two 'caps' on the back of my headlight housing - to enable you to get to the bulb. What I did is drill a hole through the middle of the plastic to get the cables through. You then have to connect everything up - intructiones usally come with the kit. Find a place to mount/store the ballast. Then your good to go. But this will take 40 mins to an hour.

2. Usually the HID kit is only for one set of lights - ie you buy a kit for the low beams (H11 bulbs) If you want a set for high beams youll have to get another set - wattage and colour temp will all be the same you just need a different bulb - (H9 bulbs).

In the case of an executive with calais/ss/hsv headlights...will buying a H4 (Hi/lo) kit solve the problem of having the parkers or main light turn off when high beam is turned on?... :S

[M100]

Was pondering over this for ages. I have a VY with projectors and was going to put the Phillips Crystal vision in my car but found out they dont do it for H11s.. I ended up getting some HID's on Ebay for $50. They are 4300K and when I put them in, even they look more bluey so wouldnt go higher than that. My mate put HID's in his commodore and the cut looks bad because he doesnt have projectors...

Best $50 I ever spent tho.

[Troy711]

HIDs for 50 bucks..?

[M100]

Yep. Its no Phillips brand but the supplier is actually from Australia otherwise I wouldnt have bought them. It was a no reserve auction but usually buy it now for $99 or something. Might have been just lucky. Ive had put them in and they are brilliant.

[danja]

All imma say is blue tint = instant rice box.

[Troy711]

All imma say is blue tint = instant rice box.

How blue though?