power chip vs. dyno tune

[henrytad]

i was looking for a while now at getting my car dyno-tuned but now ive heard of the power-chip increasing vz commodores up to 192kw. was just wondering what would be the better option? average on a dyno is $900 from what ive been quoted and the power chip is $890 so not a major price difference. which will be more effective?

[impulsive]

power chip? where? is this some piggy back doge stuff on Ebay? I think VCM suite is about as safe as i would recomend

[henrytad]

its powerchip group.
this is the direct link to their info sheet
http://www.powerchipgroup.com/datasheets/1/Hol0150.pdf

[impulsive]

never heard of one of these on an alloytec, usual story is VCM

[impulsive]

ha ha they speak a lot of shit on that site

[Danoz]

Cheaper... More power. Mail order tune.

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[VZ-Rob]

its powerchip group.
this is the direct link to their info sheet
http://www.powerchipgroup.com/datasheets/1/Hol0150.pdf

got mine done a while back
got an extra 25Kw with the powerchip tune

[Jimmy SV6]

hmmm me wonders if they have a version for the 190kw sv6 also.

[acarmody]

http://www.powerchipgroup.com/datasheets/1/Hol0150.pdf

I laughed at the tables at the bottom of the document. So your car stalls at 1000rpm, beautiful.

[impulsive]

got mine done a while back
got an extra 25Kw with the powerchip tune

Is this what they told you, or do you have a dyno sheet to show?

[Danoz]

Those charts are bullshit! Unless they removed an Alloytec and placed it on an engine dyno there is NO WAY they could tell engine power output accurately. Dont be fooled.

[henrytad]

Cheaper... More power. Mail order tune.

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have you done this? or has anyone?

[impulsive]

Ebay power chip - stay clear... Tunes arent worth the $$

[Jimmy SV6]

Ebay power chip - stay clear... Tunes arent worth the $$

why do u say that the ebay power chip wouldnt be worth it ?? just curious cause i accutally emailed half interested they said that they would be able to do it a chip/tune and in the works to try and get a 190kw chip/tune in the pipeline.

[Cobez]

Of course they will tell you it's good and it works etc, they aren't your friend, they are a business remember, a businesses prime focus is to make money. It's just a shame that some businesses make money of stooging people.

I was gonna go mail order Mafless, but **** that, i'm gonna save for a real time Mafless instead (dyno). That way, it's tuned to how YOUR individual car runs etc. Not all VZ's run EXACTLY the same. Most flash tunes are made off how ONE VZ they used runs. Which may not be ideal for EVERYONE's VZ.

[Jimmy SV6]

Of course they will tell you it's good and it works etc, they aren't your friend, they are a business remember, a businesses prime focus is to make money. It's just a shame that some businesses make money of stooging people.

I was gonna go mail order Mafless, but **** that, i'm gonna save for a real time Mafless instead (dyno). That way, it's tuned to how YOUR individual car runs etc. Not all VZ's run EXACTLY the same. Most flash tunes are made off how ONE VZ they used runs. Which may not be ideal for EVERYONE's VZ.

oh i was accutally gunna take my car down there and get them to do it properly tune, not just do a mail order option, **** that i wouldnt wanna get stooged liked that, thats just ****ed up tbh...

[Corbs1234]

i do find it funny that on the powerchip website, the customer testamonials on the VZ alloytec brochure...none of them are from people who own vz commodores...one's from a bloke who owns an astra, and another is from a bloke who owns a VX SC-V6...

[henrytad]

lol i didnt even realise that, shit your right!
so im assuming everyones more in favour of dyno-tuning. i know castle hill exhaust does it, i spoke to them.
also just FYI any of the members who were following my thread about the over-rev when flooring my accelerator, i found out the problem. i took it to exhaust shop, the left catalytic converter was DEAD! and only the right was working. thats why i was loosing the power and not being able to gain speed when i was giving it power.

[henrytad]

has anyone ever tried this?
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[Corbs1234]

i was looking at this tune offer a while ago, but didnt like the statement "Although it is highly unlikely that this tune should cause any damage to your vehicle we take no responsibility for any damage caused as the result of its use".
usually tuners modify the tune and still remain in safe levels right?

[Jimmy SV6]

hmmm wow, i am glad i aint gunna go through these guys now, it kinda sounds a lil shady i guess... but i had been emailing them through ebay they sounded like were legit.

one would think there would stay within safe levels.

[acarmody]

If you want to stay well within the safety limits then leave the stock tune in there. If you want to chase power then you take risks. Go to any dyno operator, safe bet that they will make you sign a declaration stating they are not responsible for any damage to your car.

[henrytad]

what are my other options then for safely increasing power and decreasing fuel consumption

[acarmody]

More power and less fuel is not really possible. A lot of people will disagree with me and I accept that, but in saying so, if you put more power to the floor then you will use more fuel. Now 99% of the time you will probably be driving normally and with the right mods you may well use slightly less fuel, but it will likely be marginal at best.

Now there are quite a few ways to get more power without using more fuel. By all means get a tune done but maybe get some bolt-on mods done first. Tune is generally the last thing someone does. Start with the normal stuff, extractors, exhaust, CAI, diff gears, etc.

[undar8ed1]

Geez, a mail order tune is a great thing (though $890 is steep) as its normaly half the price or less of dyno tuning, yes dyno tuning is the most accurate way of getting 100% preformace though you pay$$$$$$$$ for it mail order gives you less accuracy but still you pay for what you get anyone who says that all M/O`s are no good at all I`d say just depends on the person you buy from almost everyone can vouch for greenfoams tunes there mail orders aren`t they.

To the OP $890 for a M/O or $900 for a Dyno tune = no contest!